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They can't change the system too much or they risk alienating the early adopters by making new games that won't work on the old ones. Nintendo is very smart about this and I think the GB/GBC/GBA/DS compatibility history has proven it to them.

I'm guessing what they'll do is include a HD upscaler in the new wii and hopefully allow an addon that'll work with the older wii's.



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Crono said:
What would be really bitchin is a USB attachment thats basically an external video card to piggyback onto whats in the Wii already. It would have more RAM, and an extra/better GPU to enable those oh so coveting HD resolutions and shader effects. All games would still support Wii without the attachment, but the new games would have optional eye candy and higher resolutions that would kick on automagically if you have the attachment.

Not sure if USB is fast enough to be a passthrough though. I thought they had external video cards already that ran on USB.

 No, it's not fast enough.

 Wii is already capable of using shaders, and Nint could just throw in some firmware update to allow devs to ran games on 1280x720 that is not really big deal. 



Nintendo 'could' have some minor graphical updates to the Wii without breaking compatibility but there are serious limitations. The most obvious examples would be that Nintendo could increase the output resolution, increase Antialiasing and Anisotropic filtering, and add filtering (upscaling) of textures; most of these things can be done in emulators without breaking compatibility. About all this would do is make the same games look crisper and cleaner on a HD Television and would not give it the ability to produce graphics like the XBox 360/PS3.



It's annoying to have a company change SKU's constantly over time. Of course, how to handle the revision when one hopes that upgrades could improve Wii pointer accuracy (Never had a problem with it on my set up, though I have at other places) or anything else would be nice, and I do pray they don't do anything stupid by alienating the first 10 million customers with a large change.

Also, biggest franchises historically, or biggest franchises that you call biggest because you are looking forward to them? You don't seem like the Pokemon type, Nonquihote.



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WiteoutKing said:
If Nintendo's going to upgrade the system, it's going to be cost-effective, the last thing they will want to do is raise the price of the Wii.

The only things that really seem like they'd be effective improvements are:

DVD support
USB Mouse and Keyboard support (primarily for Internet Channel)
Wired internet connection (for people without the USB Wireless Connector)

 Wired internet connection is already an option (via USB to ethernet)

Adding a hard drive seems like the most likely option for an elite model.  I could see dropping the price of the current one and continue selling it, and having a hard drive version at the existing price point.  There are already people who filled their internal memory with VC games, and it should be something that most things can use internal memory or hard drive or sd for storage.



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Nonquihote said:
redspear said:
Nonquihote said:
New tech in the wii or just wii slim ? They are losing gamers now, what will happen when theres a 400 or 300 dollar PS3.

You are going to need to clarify this potentially vague statement. They are not losing gamers and if they are what does this have to say about the 360 and PS3 because they are not selling anywhere near as well. I think you meant to say that they are losing hardcore gamers which is possible and something that was even mentioned in the interview but the install base is growing and it will outsell the GC total LTD sales by the end of next year maybe even as early as June 2008. So there is no way it is losing gamers but only a small fragment who will come back after the install base peaks over 50 million and the biggest franchises will be on the Wii.


 pirists/hardcore/core they are losing them, and they know it the guy said it himself.

  I can say dragons exists and iam a frodo the elf, but facts are the biggest franchises are not on the wii and it does not seem like they will be any time soon. 

 What will happen at 300 is PS3 will tap in to the tens of millions of formar PS owners.  PS2 is still selling great and creating more PS fans that will be uprading to a new console a few years from now, put the two together.

 

I also mentioned they said it in the interview. However the key difference is the word some and not all. Whoever the lost they more then made up for. Most of those they lost never went to nintendo since the SNES days anyways.

Yup you see the biggest baddest franchises on the 360 they have been in development since before the Wii was on any gamers radar and definitely before it took off.  These are massive investments and they will go out on the 360 and the PS3. If developers knew how the sales turned out this year you could bet that more than a few would of been done on the Wii but that is not how it is and they sure as hell aren't gonna say Well RE5 is on the 360 and PS3 but RE6 is on the Wii. RE4 was the 7th highest selling game in June with 150K in ten days. The hardcore are not leaving in droves. I can guarantee you if things do not turn around in Japan DQ XI and FF XIV will be on the Wii SE has expressed dissapointment in the PS3(in terms of sales not performance).

 

Those tens of millions PS2 owners will not jump in at 300, they didn't jump in until the PS2 hit 150. Most of them bought it at a mass market price with an extensive games library that included a greatest hits collection priced at 20 dollars. They MAY jump in at 199 but I have feeling many are already going to the Wii and a few are going to the 360 and a few are waiting for the PS3 to drop in price. However you want to state it the PS3 will not suddenly jump from last to first place in sustained sales because it drops to 300 dollars.

 



I think this is going to happen in year 4 or by fall of 2010. WiiHD.



Geez, give it a rest people. No way in hell would Nintendo go for a graphicaly advanced sku of the Wii. That would be total bullcrap. I mean, what gives? Some people get to play a better game in terms of graphics because he has the new sku while others don't because they have an older sku of the same system? Retarded idea.

Only enchancment i see possible is a bigger internal hdd.



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Fearing

Doubting. 

I dont expect a WiiHD until next gen. What I could see is a Wii with DVD and HDD.



Desroko said:
Cobretti said:
a wii slim wtf people. It is small enough. This isnt sony shrinking the same thing by a very little amount. When they change stuff they really do.


The only possibilty I see is HD and not because they want to put it in but developers will want to use it and keep asking for it if they havent already.

I could see Nintendo forgoing a 2008 price drop in favor of a WiiHD, or something similar. By then manufacturing costs should have dropped to the point where they can still turn a profit.  


 In order to create a Wii HD they'd have to manufacture new chips, that costs a lot of money, and economies of scale don't kick in that fast, so no



 

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