TheRealMafoo said:
I am not against the government intervening in healthcare. I am against the government collecting funds from one group of people, to provide a service to another (and not to the people they collected it from).
If you do what you are asking, you are giving life to one group, at the expense of life and liberty of another. Life because it takes time to earn it, and liberty because you have no choice but to do it.
In terms of the constitution, life means the government can not take it away from you. Not that it's there job to prolong it for you. I have no issues with the service in general, as long as it's a general service for all.
The only issue I then have with it, is the government sucks at everything they do, so why would they do a good job here? That's a different issue however.
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I see your point, but isn't most employer healthcare optional in that you have to pay a fee somewhere along the line to get it? You could choose simply to not pay the fee. Whenever I have heard of employees getting healthcare from their job they still have to pay something for it.
Your logic kind of falls apart though, I don't use roads in the southern half of Texas, but I still have to pay taxes to help build them. My house has never caught on fire, but I still have to pay for firefighters. I have never had someone break into my house, but I still have to pay police officers.
There are all kinds of government services available to everyone, such as museums, libraries, etc., which many people never use but that are still available to them. They still have to pay for them though.
Government healthcare would still be available to you even if you choose not to use it.
As for your last point, the best healthcare systems in the world are in countries with socialized medicine, but I do concede that the US is too cheap of a country to adequately fund state healthcare. To do so, people would just have to accept that there taxes would be higher.
But in the end most people would actually pay less overall as paying for insurance would generally be more expensive than paying the government for healthcare. Insurance companies have a lot of overhead, and essentially provide no real service. Insurance companies in terms of healthcare are the ultimate middle man, and they just leech money out of the market.
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