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ManusJustus said:
tokilamockingbrd said:
ManusJustus said:
tokilamockingbrd said:
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

He asked Obama why he wanted to punish his success when he buys his new house and Obama said this.

“It’s not that I want to punish your success, I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance at success, too. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody.”

It is good for everybody.  If the rest of America is broke and cant afford a plumber, Joe isn't going to make much money and he isn't going to hire anybody.  If the rest of America has more money to pay for goods and services, Joe is going to make more money and hire more people.

hmm. wrong. your base premise is just wrong.

Err, nope you're wrong.

When the wealth gap is more narrow and more people have more money, that means that more consumers have more money to buy goods and services with.  These consumers have more buying power which they spend which creates more businesses and jobs.  In economics, this is referred to as a job multiplier.

is your economic reference Das Capital?

Das Kapital?

No, I dont recall Karl Marx ever championing the idea of giving the middle class more money so that businesses could increase sales and have higher revenue to hire more employees.

 

 I guess you did not read it after all. because what you just described is the core of what Marx described in that book.

As Reagan once said. "A Communist is someone that reads Karl Marx, A Capitalist is someone who understands Marx"



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tokilamockingbrd said:
it is not charater assination to call Obama a socialist becuase he is, it is not c a to ask about his relationship with Ayres, or White, or Rezco, Acorn.

Do you think that if McCain had help his first campaign fundraiser in the home of an Abortion clinic bomber he would be running for pres?

The c a I was reffering to in relation to Obama was calling him a Muslim Terrorist and things of that nature. McCain has done none of that, but people on the far right have. When I say far right I mean even more than Limbaugh and Hannity. Those two have attacked Obama, but using legimate topics (socialism, associations, and such)

Obama's a socialist?  We already have a progressive tax.  Are we already socialist?  Raising taxes on 5% of people is crossing the line and making us socialist, or will that just make us slightly more socialist?

 

And seriously drop the Ayers thing.  Obama and him aren't good friends.  However, McCain and Gordon Liddy are good friends.  They still hang out.  Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain said "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family."  McCain also said "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

Liddy spent 5 and a half years in prison for conspiracy, burglary, and wiretapping in the Watergate scandal.  He would've spent 20 years, but Carter let him out early, the jackass.

Here's Liddy on listening to Hitler on the radio: "It made me feel a strength inside I had never known before. Hitler's sheer animal confidence and power of will [entranced me]. He sent an electric current through my body."

He also made plans to kill journalist Jack Anderson, but didn't act on them.

 



tokilamockingbrd said:
ManusJustus said:

Das Kapital?

No, I dont recall Karl Marx ever championing the idea of giving the middle class more money so that businesses could increase sales and have higher revenue to hire more employees.

 I guess you did not read it after all. because what you just described is the core of what Marx described in that book.

As Reagan once said. "A Communist is someone that reads Karl Marx, A Capitalist is someone who understands Marx"

I guess for some, the lines between knowing what you are talking about and pretending to know what you are talking about are blurred.

The main theme behind Karl Marx's Das Kapital was the exploitation of the working class, specifically that a worker is being paid less than he is worth and is unable to do anything about it do the the power of the bourgeoisie.  I would love to see a Karl Marx quote where he supports the working class buying more goods from the bourgeoisie so that they can make more money.