The three value bundle (same price as the console without the games) must be worldwide bundle. For the others, it depend of the country.

Have you seen that in France:

http://www.micromania.fr/sorties/micromania/?mach=PlayStation%203&sorti=0&micsessionid=ml3ndi600579847tiej0ittcj1

PACK PS3 160 Go + PES 2009 for the 29/10/08

Two things for me are terrible: "160 GO" and "PES 2009 with the ps3"

And in France, there is no bundle with the 360 and PES 2009, what is the case in Italy and Spain:

http://www.game.es/ficha/ficha.aspx?sku=056078

lombard2578

about the PES bundle

but

1/ it is not fo 400 euros, it is more expensive (450 euros)

2/ PES will a bit more suffer from FIFA this year since FIFA seems to be really good

Whatever, in France, PS3 > Xbox360 I believe.

EDIT : xbox360 holiday bundle are alreayd here ... it may explain the good xbox360 sales in NA

And 160 GO. It's normal, or i have missing something.

pshh why even bundle gears of war, we all know everyone who could possibly want gears 2 already bought a 360....

No, the holiday bundle are only available since 8 october in USA, if the release date of amazon.com is right.

Its very good to hear some good feedback from die hard Pro Evo fans about FIFA. Chears mate!!!

Football is our passion!!!!

Haha worst logic ever.

So Resistance 2 won't push any hardware either? Then why would 1st parties make sequels?

So people could only play Gears 1 on a console they owned? You couldn't go to a friends house who owns a 360 and play gears? What about demo's at game stores or expo's?

There's plenty of reasons why Halo 2 outside the original Halo (even though Halo was out for longer).

Also, I thought it was a bit early for them to announce their christmas bundles (the 3 shovelware filled bundles), I mean it's still early october...

I had missing something, OK.

http://www.jeuxactu.com/article-32765-ps3-un-pack-160-go-pes-2009.html

@lombard2578,

it is normal that 160go is released
but I was not sure the PES +160go bundle at Micromania was true or not ...

@eliasg

LOL, I dont have played football game since ... FIFA99

I never played PES ...

I m not so "dyehard" as u can see

Hmm you ever think that kind of false logic was on purpose? Maybe the "..." alluded to something else? Perhaps cause it's a repeated sentiment among sony fanboys.  Learn to infer.

Edit: I totally forgot the irony that I bought a 360 cause of Gears 2 and Fable 2 (well also ninja gaiden 2 but that should go without saying looking at my avatar.