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Forums - General Discussion - Dow index no longer over 9000;GM shares at 58-year low;WSJ:recession's here

Whats the problem of being over 9000? I mean, whats the problem if the stock was under 100? I don't understand these things.



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Sadly, I wouldn't rule out a depression at this point. So far we haven't seen the mass layoffs or business failures which will probably eventually occur. For example, all the auto dealerships that will go under once their money runs out.



I would say if GM is healthy 6 months from now... INVEST in them. They seem to get it. The Volt will be huge, I like the direction they are heading. I do not see a depression coming. I see a major inflationary period ahead, tight credit, and higher job loss. No Depression the fundementals of the US economy are too strong, even Obama becoming president would not lead us to a depression.

I having been analyizing the economic leaders, and they seem good. Most of the doom in gloom you see politicalization of the crisis for gain. Yes, it is bad, but the politicians are making it seem worse than it is.



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bigjon said:
I would say if GM is healthy 6 months from now... INVEST in them. They seem to get it. The Volt will be huge, I like the direction they are heading. I do not see a depression coming. I see a major inflationary period ahead, tight credit, and higher job loss. No Depression the fundementals of the US economy are too strong, even Obama becoming president would not lead us to a depression.

I having been analyizing the economic leaders, and they seem good. Most of the doom in gloom you see politicalization of the crisis for gain. Yes, it is bad, but the politicians are making it seem worse than it is.

Seriously bigjon, wake up.  The economy is way beyond people "politicizing" it to be a crisis for gain.  And it looks like you copy and pasted some of what you said straight out of things McCain has said before (bolded parts).  Are we all just "a bunch of whiners" too?  In a "mental recession"?

Here is the YTD chart of the DOW.  You see that part at the end there?  That is the last month.  There is about a 3000 point drop in 1 MONTH.  You can't really spin that to be something minor.

 



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akuma587 said:

  There is about a 3000 point drop in 1 MONTH.  You can't really spin that to be something minor.

 

 

 

sure you can...your still doing fairly well comparatively to other countries.  for example, a couple weeks ago the russian market went down 25% in a single day.



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bigjon said:
I would say if GM is healthy 6 months from now... INVEST in them. They seem to get it. The Volt will be huge, I like the direction they are heading. I do not see a depression coming. I see a major inflationary period ahead, tight credit, and higher job loss. No Depression the fundementals of the US economy are too strong, even Obama becoming president would not lead us to a depression.

I having been analyizing the economic leaders, and they seem good. Most of the doom in gloom you see politicalization of the crisis for gain. Yes, it is bad, but the politicians are making it seem worse than it is.

 

 wow, how much faster can one lose his credibility!

of course, you did say "if" GM is healthy 6 months from now.  well, i can also say that if the economy is fine 6 months from now, you can pretty much invest in anything and make money.

you think politicians are making it seem worse?  i actually think they're underestimated how bad it is.  especially two weeks ago when they couldn't even pass that stupid bill.



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Man the layoffs from this are going to be pretty epic indeed. I hate the NRA, but it may be time to get me a gun.

Can we still buy assault rifles?



I wouldn't touch GM with a ten foot pole. The Volt is over 3 years away and they still don't have the battery worked out yet. Nobody is going to buy their cars in the next year or two. They are up to their ears in debt. How do you think they are going to pay bills if they can't get any more loans and nobody is buying their product???



FishyJoe said:
I wouldn't touch GM with a ten foot pole. The Volt is over 3 years away and they still don't have the battery worked out yet. Nobody is going to buy their cars in the next year or two. They are up to their ears in debt. How do you think they are going to pay bills if they can't get any more loans and nobody is buying their product???

 

i thought the USGov was going to give the vehicle manufacturers a $25b "loan" ?



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