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then I am enthusiastically for Huckabee 2012.  I thought he did a fantastic job, is well liked, media savvy, and plays a mean bass ;)



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It will turn the page on 8 years of Republican mismanagement, and lead to an era of Democratic mismanagement...

Oh, Huckabee. Yeah, he's adorable, that TV show he's doing might kill his chances. Too personal.

He could have cemented his place as leader for the Republican party, like Howard Dean did.

I don't think he'll win the nomination in 2012.

I think the party is going to under go some massive changes when McCain loses.

The good part about losing a bunch of seats, is that new people can run next time. 2010-2012 will see true fiscal conservatives, abandoning the religious right, and be waiting to say "I told you so" in 8 to 12 years when the economy inevitably has another down cycle (which has nothing to do with most policy).



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

steven787 said:
It will turn the page on 8 years of Republican mismanagement, and lead to an era of Democratic mismanagement...

Oh, Huckabee. Yeah, he's adorable, that TV show he's doing might kill his chances. Too personal.

He could have cemented his place as leader for the Republican party, like Howard Dean did.

I don't think he'll win the nomination in 2012.

I think the party is going to under go some massive changes when McCain loses.

The good part about losing a bunch of seats, is that new people can run next time. 2010-2012 will see true fiscal conservatives, abandoning the religious right, and be waiting to say "I told you so" in 8 to 12 years when the economy inevitably has another down cycle (which has nothing to do with most policy).

 

This will be a much more effective party. They can still have conservative social doctorine, but they can't make it the focal point. A much better fiscal conservatism that does not go free market crazy might be appealing. It depends on how the budget looks in 4-8 years.



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It will be more effective, but they won't have the voting base that ALWAYS shows up.

Dems have old people who don't prepare for retirement. Reps have the christian fundamentalists.

They always show up.

They need a new topic to energize another segment who has too much time on their hands.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

We just need to drop the debates on "moral" (such as abortion, gay rights, "family" value, religion, etc.) issues almost entirely from both platforms and focus more on economic, social, and foreign policy issues.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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akuma587 said:
We just need to drop the debates on "moral" (such as abortion, gay rights, "family" value, religion, etc.) issues almost entirely from both platforms and focus more on economic, social, and foreign policy issues.

That is hard for my party.  Easier for the Dems but the Bible belt, deep values, etc are what make up a large portion of our votes.

 



halogamer1989 said:
akuma587 said:
We just need to drop the debates on "moral" (such as abortion, gay rights, "family" value, religion, etc.) issues almost entirely from both platforms and focus more on economic, social, and foreign policy issues.

That is hard for my party.  Easier for the Dems but the Bible belt, deep values, etc are what make up a large portion of our votes.

 

Just brainwash them or kill them!  You gotta think outside the box.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

halogamer1989 said:
akuma587 said:
We just need to drop the debates on "moral" (such as abortion, gay rights, "family" value, religion, etc.) issues almost entirely from both platforms and focus more on economic, social, and foreign policy issues.

That is hard for my party.  Easier for the Dems but the Bible belt, deep values, etc are what make up a large portion of our votes.

 

I grew up in the Bible belt, did mission trips with the Southern Baptists and back in the south. I am a Democrat and will likely stay Dem. I voted 4 times for president, so far, and have seen this country change for the worst. Oh, I remember the Reagan years. My dad was fresh out of the military but under Bush 1, he lost his job and was out of work for a year. Then, came the Clinton years. I was making good money under the Clinton years - but what's wild is - I stayed at the same salary during most of the Bush years. I just can't take a chance on this again. I voted Gore/Kerry and after hearing people at Mc rallies calling O a terrorist and palling around with terrorists is totally disrespectful.

When the Dems act like the GOP, I'll just quit voting altogether.

 



The more I think about it, the more I think McCain should run again in '12.

It worked for Nixon.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

I think Sarah Palin will be back in 2012 as, I would imagine, she has more star power than Huckabee and all other Republicans at the moment.