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konnichiwa said:
A bit off topic but I find it strange that all movies in Thailand are now on Blue Ray (or atleast 80% of them).

Curious, are they actually Blu Ray or just packaged as them?  I've noticed the same thing here but inside they are still just regular DVD 9.

 



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konnichiwa said:
Like I have said before. They should make some only on Blu ray movies like they do in Japan.

The most consumers don't have an idea what an Blu Ray player is but if they want a movie and they know it is only Blu Ray they are going to be interested to buy a Blu Ray player.

 

 yes. too bad smaller movies wont peak enough intrest and bigger movies the company would want all the money they can get... untill blu-ray movies start selling where companies would be glad to lose the money they would sell on the dvd side this wont happen.



hsrob said:
konnichiwa said:
A bit off topic but I find it strange that all movies in Thailand are now on Blue Ray (or atleast 80% of them).

Curious, are they actually Blu Ray or just packaged as them?  I've noticed the same thing here but inside they are still just regular DVD 9.

 

 

 Well my father took a lot of movies with him from his trip (around 10 of them for 2$ each) and no one worked on a region free DVD player but when I put them in my PS3 they work.   So I guess it is really Blu Ray.






konnichiwa said:
hsrob said:
konnichiwa said:
A bit off topic but I find it strange that all movies in Thailand are now on Blue Ray (or atleast 80% of them).

Curious, are they actually Blu Ray or just packaged as them?  I've noticed the same thing here but inside they are still just regular DVD 9.

 

 

 Well my father took a lot of movies with him from his trip (around 10 of them for 2$ each) and no one worked on a region free DVD player but when I put them in my PS3 they work.   So I guess it is really Blu Ray.

 

 you can tell from the tint on the disc,



LOL MATURE said:
konnichiwa said:
hsrob said:
konnichiwa said:
A bit off topic but I find it strange that all movies in Thailand are now on Blue Ray (or atleast 80% of them).

Curious, are they actually Blu Ray or just packaged as them?  I've noticed the same thing here but inside they are still just regular DVD 9.

 

 

 Well my father took a lot of movies with him from his trip (around 10 of them for 2$ each) and no one worked on a region free DVD player but when I put them in my PS3 they work.   So I guess it is really Blu Ray.

 

 you can tell from the tint on the disc,

Well the tint is blue but they can't give a dvd a blue tint aswell?

 






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Yea they had the Blu Ray awareness push last holiday season as well. Blu ray isn't really going anywhere and probably will take at least until the end of this generation to catch, even then maybe.



Struggling economy + new, high priced technology = slow sales? who would have guessed. Seriously, I have a blu ray player and a ps3, and I can tell the difference so it is worth the extra $5 for the blu ray movie to me. I know the companies want to make their billions back and all, but if they want it to take off they need a lower price, and an incentive. For example, release The Dark Knight a week early on blu ray so that people who want the movie go blu ray over dvd. Or maybe Wall-E or some other summer block buster that I can't think of right now. Personally I don't buy as many movies as I used to but I will be getting some this holiday, but there just ins't the line of huge hits that would push the technology. We got Wall-E, Dark Knight, and what? I will be getting Narnia on blu ray but I doubt most will.



scottie said:
Why does every article mention the expense of a blu ray player, but neglect to mention the extra expense of the blue ray movies themselves? Because that's the main thing putting me off Blu-Ray

I can think of about 20 movies I'd buy tomorrow if they were priced at 9.99 a pop, but at even 14.99 I won't budge, let alone 19.99 or 24.99, and I'm talking about catalog titles here, not new releases, titles like V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, The Shinning, Goodfellas, Reservoir Dogs, etc and some of those I'm waiting because I know they'll re release them because the transfer for these movies weren't that good (Terminator 1 and 2, Click)

 

 



shams said:

Its long, so I'm not going to post it all here:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/home-entertainment/articles/bluray-struggles-to-break-through/2008/10/07/1223145318783.html

Some excerps from it:

 - standalone BluRay players just not selling

 - BluRay titles account for less than 2% of the movie market in Australia & France

 - "" account for less than 5% in the US

 - this holiday season critical, big push to drive BluRay awareness

"Even for a new technology, the penetration figures are low considering Blu-ray has been on the Australian market for two years and its main competitor, HD DVD, was axed just under a year ago."

"The shift from VHS to DVD a decade ago offered tangible benefits such as significantly improved picture quality and the ability to skip instantly to any scene of the film. However, Blu-ray's improvements over DVD are less pronounced and largely limited to a noticeable but far from extreme increase in picture quality, provided a big screen HDTV is used."

"Paul Uniacke, managing director of Blockbuster and Video Ezy in Australia, said all of his stores stocked Blu-ray titles for rental and many customers were now buying multiple copies of each title. However, the format still made up less than 2.5 per cent of total rentals."

"He refused to predict when Blu-ray would replace DVD as the dominant format in Blockbuster and Video Ezy stores. However, he said he recently met representatives from a major studio that predicted 2011 would be a critical year for mainstream adoption, with the studio's Blu-ray sales expected to rise from $35-40 million this year to $200 million."

"Samsung's director of consumer electronics in Britain, Andy Griffiths, told Pocket-link last month that the company saw the Blu-ray format lasting only a further five years before it was replaced by a new format or technology.

He said 2008 would be "huge" for Blu-ray and that Samsung was "heavily back-ordered at the moment".

Some predict that when broadband connections become ubiquitous and prices drop, people will ditch the disc altogether and move to downloading their movies from the internet."

"Sony Australia's brand and channel marketing manager, Vanessa Hamilton, said Blu-ray players, initially priced at more than $2000 for a stand-alone unit, had struggled to compete with DVD players that at the time sold for under $500 each. A DVD player could now be had for less than $200."

(umm - I can pick up a DVD player for closer to $50, and an awesome one with excellent upscaling for around $100...)

(etc)

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Its an unfortunate time for the financial crisis to hit - HDTVs & BluRay players will certainly be considered a "luxury". I definitely have no interest in them, or any plans to pick one up in the future.

 

 

i've said it before and i'll say it again...i'm just not interested in disc-based format.  i need more benifits then just picture quality from my next format.



cwbys21 - I would also probably pay $5 extra, but in Australia it's more like $10 difference on the rrp, with dvd's going on sale more often. For a 6 month old movie it's probably $15 for dvd or $30 for blu ray