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kirby007 said:
LOL MATURE said:
kirby007 said:
Staude said:
DMeisterJ said:
Reasonable said:
Ms can't be happy with that price drop. They get a bump of interest then it wanes. At the price and with the same multi-plats, good exclusives and a bigger back catalog it should be selling well above PS3 considering that unless you really want BR as well it offers essentially the same as 360 for a much higher cost.

If 360 drops back below PS3 (which it looks like it will) I'll be really curious what MS do then as if they leave things as they are then 360 will definitely be third in Others. I know some are assuming the current economic situation will favour 360 (and it should) but the crunch is already on and 360 is really only a small amount above PS3 and trending down from the initial cut vs PS3 holding pretty steady.

They better hope the price cut holds better in Japan and especially the US as a three to four week bump that settles back isn't much for a pretty big drop in regular price.

If 360 does drop back then if I was Sony I'd seriously consider a very modest price cut before holidays in Others. The way its holding steady even a modest drop would likely generate a sustained increase in average weekly sales, which tied to new games and holiday season should drive strong sales.

Excellent post;

And agreed.

An extremely modest PS3 price cut after 360 falls back below it would really increase sales weekly, and effectively put the nail in the 360's coffin, at least in that territory.

 

agree.

How do you mean Flawed like hell?

ifa xbox360 pricecut cant move much more like you guys believe,  why the hell should a pricecut of a machine more expense work better?

 

why are you so bent on not believing the price cut failed?

Why would it work better for ps3? because there is more demand. Demand = interest.

so more people are in interested in the ps3.

 

 

lol wait a minute xbox360>ps3 that means the xbox360 has more demand

 

 If you dont understand the difference between artificial demand and intrest demand I feel sorry for you. Artificial demand would be creating demand from a price cut... artificial demand usually isnt the same and quickly dies down. stop trying to play damage controll here.



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No surprises at all for me, it'll be the same next week with a stable Wii and DS, lower 360 sales (around 65k) and PS3 slightly above (68k).
Japan will be a virtual tie this week I think and next week the PS3 will be in front again there as well.
NA will be 360 territory (after Wii of course) though and will stay that way for many months I suppose.



kirby007 said:
konnichiwa said:
kirby007 said:
SpartanFX said:
kirby007 said:
ultimate_123 said:
Why are people just suddenly assuming that 360 sales are going to drop back to normal levels?

 

 

they don't think

 

oh no we are thinking,,,but that is what happened 3 months ago with the last price cut in the europe.it was high for 4 weeks and then it dropped back to normal(40K range)

we in holland say : In het verleden behaalde resultaten bieden geen garantie voor de toekomst

or in english : results in the past don't garanty for the future

 

=p  Uh  ...

 

geen goede vertaling?

 

Laat maar...  Ik gebruik die zin alleen voor iets negatief...Vb...  het is niet omdat je vorige keer 80% haalde op je examen dat je dat nu ook haalt.  Maar bon. Laat maar.

 






""""if a xbox360 pricecut cant move much more like you guys believe, why the hell should a pricecut of a machine more expense work better?""""

==> because when something is VEYR expensive such as the PS3, people are very interested into a price cut compared to a more affordable product like the xbx360.

also, be sure, that when PS3 will hit 300 euros in PAL, xbox360 will really SUFFER.



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LOL MATURE said:
ymeaga1n said:
darthdevidem01 said:
libellule said:
I m just realizing the drop is quite important while the PS3 are quite stable :

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Total+Other&cons2=PS3®2=Total+Other&cons3=X360®3=Total+Other&start=39705&end=39726

check it yourself !

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Total+Other&cons2=PS3®2=Europe&cons3=X360®3=Europe&start=39705&end=39726

this is more telling (as price cut was in EU regions)....and bad news for M$ as next week PS3 will definetely equal if not once again be over 360 in EU

Haha damage control at its best. I love how both your charts start from September of this year to decrease the slope of the line.

 

 

 if you dont understand what these charts represent then you shouldnt comment.

LOL...you pwnd him allright!

 



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konnichiwa said:
kirby007 said:
konnichiwa said:
kirby007 said:
SpartanFX said:
kirby007 said:
ultimate_123 said:
Why are people just suddenly assuming that 360 sales are going to drop back to normal levels?

 

 

they don't think

 

oh no we are thinking,,,but that is what happened 3 months ago with the last price cut in the europe.it was high for 4 weeks and then it dropped back to normal(40K range)

we in holland say : In het verleden behaalde resultaten bieden geen garantie voor de toekomst

or in english : results in the past don't garanty for the future

 

=p  Uh  ...

 

geen goede vertaling?

 

Laat maar...  Ik gebruik die zin alleen voor iets negatief...Vb...  het is niet omdat je vorige keer 80% haalde op je examen dat je dat nu ook haalt.  Maar bon. Laat maar.

 

 

misschien een belgische gewoonte? in nl kan het positief of negatief



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libellule said:
""""if a xbox360 pricecut cant move much more like you guys believe, why the hell should a pricecut of a machine more expense work better?""""

==> because when something is VEYR expensive such as the PS3, people are very interested into a price cut compared to a more affordable product like the xbx360.

also, be sure, that when PS3 will hit 300 euros in PAL, xbox360 will really SUFFER.

 

 

well im waiting for fall 2009



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kirby007 said:
Gotcha said:

Some of you keep ignoring the power of the Playstation brand in Europe. Without the pricecuts, the 360 would be dying here, I think the price is one of its biggest weapons at the moment. Despite the high price, the PS3 will outsell the 360 this christmas, but I think the 360 will keep high numbers, not so far from Sony ones. Only the fact of being near the numbers of the PS3 is a big achievement for MS in a continent where Playstation has reigned supreme for so many time.

Btw, I don't remember a week in which the 360 sold more consoles than PS3 in Spain, this must be some kind of miracle or X file.

 

 

Hallelujah we have a winner

you just answered your own question on why the ps3 would move more if it had a price cut then the 360 does with this price cut.

 



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Staude said:
kirby007 said:
Gotcha said:

Some of you keep ignoring the power of the Playstation brand in Europe. Without the pricecuts, the 360 would be dying here, I think the price is one of its biggest weapons at the moment. Despite the high price, the PS3 will outsell the 360 this christmas, but I think the 360 will keep high numbers, not so far from Sony ones. Only the fact of being near the numbers of the PS3 is a big achievement for MS in a continent where Playstation has reigned supreme for so many time.

Btw, I don't remember a week in which the 360 sold more consoles than PS3 in Spain, this must be some kind of miracle or X file.

 

 

Hallelujah we have a winner

you just answered your own question on why the ps3 would move more if it had a price cut then the 360 does with this price cut.

 

brandname that why i am always talking about sonyland and stealing marketshare

 



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Simulacrum said:
Hoi people.
Wii and Ds, and yes Xbox 360,dropped hard.
Ps3 and PSP rised.
What happend?

 

Sir Howard gave people who bought a PS3 or a PSP free tickets to a donkey show that he was starring in. ;p