Sugarcane Ethanol mostly.  It's not really in the same league as Corn when it comes to stuff that could change the global food crisis.  Sugarcane is actually still priced really low on the world market.  Man can't live on Sugarcane alone.

Said Ethanol is about the only Ethanol efficient enough to actually possible be enviromentally helpful vs oil based. (When it comes to the EU, US and Brazils current ethanol productions.)

Also, they actually produce more Ethanol then the US.  Yet the UN doesn't mention there production as a huge problem and instead single out the US and EU.

Why?  Because the US and EU are using actual foods that people would buy and foods whose prices are greatly inflated, and whos land could eaisly adapted to other food crops if need be.

Actually its not irrelevant to current events, there is a direct involvement here to the housing situation with both Obama and Acorn, and not just because the Democrats in congress tried to give Acorn 20% of any money the government makes when we resell the mortgage securities (which they did try to do). No, the connection is more direct than that even, they were involved in lawsuits against lenders because they wanted them to give even more loans under the CRA. There are allegations, but I haven't looked into this aspect yet, that Obama's involvement with Acorn was in part to train them for organizing class-action lawsuits centered around forcing banks to give loans under the CRA. 

While I'm not certain on that last point specifically I do know that Obama was part of a lawsuit with Acorn that was filed on July 6th 1994 against Citibank for that purpose.  Acorn did a lot of these class-action lawsuits all over the place and as a result a lot of subprime loans were given.  Perhaps incidentally, this was around the same time that congress was working on legislation that Clinton would later sign to expand the CRA even further, and Acorn appears to have continued its efforts well after these changes were made to the CRA.

Acorn, Obama, & Ayers appear to have been involved in a number of projects, especially in the 90s and I honestly haven't detangled all of the information that is readily available yet, but I don't think Ayers was directly involved with anything housing related.  And I have no problem in being up front in saying that I haven't seen anything that outright disqualifies Obama from running, but with that said I have seen a number of things that people deserve to know about before voting.

As for the average voter? I would think the average voter would be more interested in this to be honest, but that's speculation on both our parts, and it sort of moves away from the issue itself.  How this effects a persons vote is between that person and themselves as far as I'm concerned, I just think people should be given the opportunity to learn about it and take it into consideration on a factual basis before they vote.  The extent they choose to take this into consideration is up to them.

I believe you would probably be wrong about that if by interested you meant actually being interested.

Maybe the Town Hall debate will prove me wrong and someone will bring it up!

i dunno.  I mean it's not like they just randomly pick people out of a crowd who have their hands raised.  Doesn't the moderator prescreen the townhall meeting questions and choose the ones he likes best?

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@Kasz,

Yeah I don't think there are going to be many surprises in terms of questions at this debate...but then again it was a primary debate when Ayers was first brought up, so who knows.

I understand that it’s not easy for John McCain to defend the worst economic record of our lifetime, but he will have to explain to the people struggling to pay their bills and stay in their homes why he would rather spend his time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy. That is, I guess, if the moderator likes those kind of questions.

So, there goes the last bit of credibility of the McCain campaign. I'm awaiting another drop in the polls for him. If Hillary couldn't use the "fear card" against Obama, I wonder how someone who has lost a lot of credibility over the last month can pull it off.

People want to hear about the economy, going negative will only increase the idea that McCain doesn't know what to do with the topic.

I don't see the relevency, but i imagine that will come up.  At least something economics based.  Interesting getting rid of the ethanol subsidary will help American families pay there bills... lowering tax costs and food costs.

I don't get why McCain doesn't attack Obama's energy policy it's just so backwords and harmful.

That's been the whole McCain campaign though.  He's had a few really good shots he could of taken, but instead went with the canned GOP typical fair.

He'd of done better attacking him on some of the issues that he's more liberal on and hammer on the weakpoints in obama's plans.  (Enviromentally and Energy wise he could of hit him.)

Could of hit him on NAFTA... coulda hit him on voting for FIZA.  (Granted i think McCain is for Fiza too... which is troubling.)

Really it's been a horribly run campaign.  They really shoulda went with Liberman for VP.

I totally agree with sql that full disclosure is better than no disclosure. If he has ties, let people know the extent of them. Unfortunately this is politics, and we both know that just letting the public know that he has ties to this man isn't the McCain camps goal. The goal isn't disclosure, it's fear mongering. And they aren't going to give facts, they are going to make insinuations, and run ads that have pictures of Obama with bombs strapped to his chest. I'm all for giving the public information, I'm very much against trying to scare the public into liking you.

Vagabond is seeing the main intent here. 

Do you think the McCain camp would give a shit about this at all if the guy hadn't been charged with terrorism charges?  NO!  They don't give a shit about the funding he gave to educational groups.  They give a shit about whether or not they can scare people into thinking Obama is a secret Muslim extremist who will blow up Washington.