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Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
He wants to dump way more money into alternative fuels and alternative fuel research than McCain, so I'm hoping that will more than make up for the ethanol and coal, and eventually make them as obsolete as oil.

It's the one kernel of shit in the middle of my delicous cake, but I gotta eat through it to get to the delicious strawberry frosting, ya know?

I think with McCain there will be just as much shit, but no strawberry frosting at the end.

I hope that made sense.

I guess.... but I mean he wants to double or triple it.  Which has way more serious complications then McCain's plan.

The UN and US biofuels programs are said to be about 33% of the inflation of global food prices according to the UN. (If i remember correctly, i know it's seen as the highest problem.  With speculation being second highest at 30%.)

The EU makes around 1.5 Billion liters per year i believe.  The US 5 Billion galons.

Seeing as there a 3 liters in a galon about...  That's about .5 Billion. galons.

Making the US largely resonsible for that 33% increase.   Doubling or tripling that is going to be catostropic, driving another 50-60 million people into starvation worldwide.

That's a pretty big kernal of shit if you ask me.  Compared to McCain saying he would get rid of all Ethanol subsides... which would pull a bunch of starving people back to the table.

Obama's energy policy is more damaging then the entire Iraq war was.  Just not to us... so people aren't going to care as much.

Firstly let me say I think biofuel production on land that should be used for crops is wrong, other and better alternative fuels need to be found. I believe that biofuels should be made but from algae rather than food crops as algae can be grown without using up arable land.

However Brazil produces nearly as much ethanol as the USA, it is the second largest producer in the world and is very close to the US indeed.

Sugarcane Ethanol mostly.  It's not really in the same league as Corn when it comes to stuff that could change the global food crisis.  Sugarcane is actually still priced really low on the world market.  Man can't live on Sugarcane alone.

Said Ethanol is about the only Ethanol efficient enough to actually possible be enviromentally helpful vs oil based. (When it comes to the EU, US and Brazils current ethanol productions.)

Also, they actually produce more Ethanol then the US.  Yet the UN doesn't mention there production as a huge problem and instead single out the US and EU.

Why?  Because the US and EU are using actual foods that people would buy and foods whose prices are greatly inflated, and whos land could eaisly adapted to other food crops if need be.