Not if Sarah Palin has anything to say about it!

Afterall, association with a murderer is essentially murder right?

That would kidna be the same if you were friends with him after he murdered is girlfriend in his appartment... and it was common knowledge he had done it... and instead of kinda been friends with him... you worked with him on a lot of stuff by choice.

Also, someone who is a convicted terrorist is generally somethign worse then someone who is convicted for bribing people.  It's really not so much a problem of actual character though as it is of really really crappy sense for a politcian.

I mean... I don't think the guy ever actually killed anybody... or intended to kill everybody.  He just set up a bunch of explosives that very eaisly could of killed somebody... unless you count the people who died trying to build the bombs.

He turned hismself into the police  for this... and he's released a book on him actually doing the acts he's accused of doing.

Including bombing the Pentagon.

The only reason he got off was because of "goverment misconduct" during the search for him.

http://www.amazon.com/Fugitive-Days-Memoir-Bill-Ayers/dp/0142002550

He's guilty, everyone knows he's guilty.... you could ask him face to face and he'd tell you he did it.  He's like OJ if OJ outright told you after the trial "Yeah I did it." whenever you asked.

Whether or not he tried to kill people... is an assumption on my part.  But if he could get away with bombing the pentagon i'd guess he could kill someone though.

Pointing to things McCain did is merely a deflection of the issue, we can discuss that in another thread, but for now lets stay on topic.

Now, this isn't merely an association as you state, this is participation in the furthering of a radical agenda.  Ayers has stated that his radical efforts of the 60s have evolved and he now attempts to advance his agenda through the education system. I repeat, Ayers admits that he furthers his agenda by influencing the education system.  The CAC (the organization Obama ran from its inception) was an organization founded and built by Ayers and built on the principle of funding education reform in the Chicago school system.  That should ring some alarm bells for any intellectually honest individual, liberal or not.

Now, the documents from the CAC show the foundation was set up so that schools didn't get money directly, instead they had to partner with other groups who were given the money.  Groups whose main goals were math/science were refused funding but groups like ACORN were given money along with other community organizing groups many of which had no experience in the educational system of any kind.  This is again is extremely consistent with the M.O. of Ayers and is documented fact as the majority of these proposals are still available in the CAC documentation.

Now even if we want to throw out the Ayers connection entirely and ignore the strong indications that Obama was controlling the flow of money into radical projects we still have a problem.  Even if we ignore Ayers completely the CAC's goal was supposedly to help Chicago School's improve. Unfortunately, for reasons that should be obvious based on the last paragraph, the effort failed miserably with Obama at its head. And that conclusion comes from the CAC's own investigation into their impact.  Again this is well documented by the CAC files stored in the Daley Library at UIC and it should be thoroughly investigated & reported by the mainstream media.  The fact that the media seems uninterested in covering Obama's only executive experience should bother people.

I'm sure you're correct that everyone has at one point known some bad people, but I'm equally sure that the majority of us don't enter a close working relationship with that person over the course of a decade...let alone endorse their anti-american books during discussion panels setup by our wives.

Charges were dropped because the feds screwed up the investigation..so your OJ analogy is actually pretty good up to the point that Ayers has actually admitted it:

"Guilty as sin, free as a bird, America is a great country."

This is all very interesting.

I'm sure it will be all over the news by the time we vote.

McCain was just saving it until the polls were too good for Obama.


I know Biden's crazy and all, but has he ever been involved in a big scandal? Other than the plagiarism one? If not, he'd be the cleanest candidate out of the 4, even though he's been in Washington for the longest. That would be hilarious.

Like I said the CAC documents only were opened last month, and there are hundreds of boxes of documents.  I won't delve into a conspiracy about who was trying to keep them sealed but the timing of it has been out of McCain's hands and from what I understand they haven't sent anybody to look into it yet...honestly though I think we both know thats probably not entirely true..I would bet McCain has sent someone. Just noone who is officially part of the campaign.  Sort of like what happened with Palin in Alaska...I think we can both be honest in saying that both campaigns get their hands into this stuff at the "unofficial" level. 

A few.

Nothing that could harm him really.

1) He is one of the biggest sexual harraserment leaders in congress apparently... one report occuring like a week after his wife and kids died in that car crash.  It's not like McCain hasn't done something roughly analgous though by cheating on his first wife while she was sick.

Worse in that it was while his wife was in a critical condition, yet also better since it concentual, all and all both pretty equal. That was one of the fun things I was looking for during the debate... I was expecting Palin to say something a lot more... and for Biden to refer to Palin as something like "Toots", "Honey"... etc.

2) There is also a speach or two where he REALLY kisses up to Bush.  One where he says Bush was justified to invade Iraq and anyone who says otherwise is ingorant.  He was one of the main people trumpeting up voting for going to war with Iraq claiming there was proof he had chemical, biological and were searching for nuclear weapons. (Don't even think bush was claming biological.)

3) He's claimed his wife and kids were killed by a drunk driver... which wasn't the case... infact the evidence on the crash showed it was his wife's fault i believe.

4) He's been known to go off all crazy like... claiming he's smarter then everybody... claiming things that aren't real and he has degrees and shit he dosen't have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho