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Actually, when reading the article. The mother doesn't specifically say that the videogames made her kid do it. The exact quotes were


"I knew he was playing the video games but we didn't really know what went on in them, how brutal and graphic they were."

Lorraine, 45, said: "I know these games are played by kids across the world, but some are truly horrific."And if they can cause a trigger to be pulled in someone's head they should be banned.

The article also states that he spent time on the web researching serial killers, trying to talk to pedophiles, and ordering materials like the black clothes he wore to do it, a black wig and a hunting knife. 

But the article wholly revolves around videogames, making absurd statements like

-THE parents of Britain's most violent teenage murderer has revealed how computer games dripping with bloodlust and death turned their son into a twisted killer.

-In a sickening random attack the 18-year-old trainee accountant slashed and hacked her 72 times — just like he'd PRACTISED on the PlayStation in his bedroom.

-But every night he would retreat into his darkened bedroom at home in Rainham, Essex, and enter a grisly virtual world that revelled in sadism, ritual blood-letting and death. Just like millions of other youngsters.

One of baby-faced Harling's favourite games was the notorious Manhunt, where players SLASH and SLICE their victims with meat CLEAVERS, cheese WIRE and CHAINSAWS, or suffocate them with plastic bags.

It was banned in New Zealand in 2004 but allowed onto the UK market uncensored.

The article is also lined with pictures of Manhunt.

Basically, the mom did sort of point towards videogames, but most of it is just trashy tabloid flare for stupidity,



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they must have been drunk while playing DDO. Exactly, how can they forgot that they bred 2 kids? Don't tell me you can't remember the 9 months that the babies were inside you. Unless, of course, it's now acceptable to use the "I don't recall" in your defense.



18 years old is obviously considered an adult but guys of 18 can be so imature and still like little kids.
I think it's possible video games do havea part to play in some peoples behaviour as can TV violence as I witnessed many times during the peak popularity of power rangers with little boys kicking and punching others to try and copy their power ranger heroes.
Having said all that it is still down the parents years before they reach 18 to recognise when their child is taking video games, cartoons, movies etc too seriously and not seeing it as the fantasy media it really is.



Oh wow, you can kill people in video games?

Then lets ban every game that involves injuring another person, place or thing.

Lets start with the prime culprit: Mario. His violent video games have sold 200m copies, and centers around him crushing the necks of various humans, and animals. He's also been seen lighting turtle-like animals on fire with a red-colored outfit, attempted to kill apes with sledgehammers, and other forms of malice.

Next, we can ban the violent Final Fantasy series, because you role-play as various characters involved in killing, and the mass murder of all kinds of animated humans and creatures.

Ad naseum.

Any game can lead to someone killing someone else. Parents have something called "responsibility". My dad still watches what games I play - usually because he likes watching me shoot Nazi's in CoD2.



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I posted a while ago that most americans can't boast a high IQ. What better example than this...."mother" .



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Wojtas: 

 "I posted a while ago that most americans can't boast a high IQ. What better example than this...."mother" ."

 

^^ First of, I don´t think its very mature or tastefull to question the intelligence of an entire population, yes you could even say it sickens me, but thats your choice

Second, its in ENGLAND, so the joke is on you Wojtas.



 

 

 

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Damn you stof. That was my masterpeice. I spent almost a hour writeing that!



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She also said that she didnt even know that games had age limits. For gods sake they are right there on the box, when you go to a game store they even have posters with explanations for what each rating stands for. It reminds me of another store I have heard in which mother claimed that she though that M stood for mild.

In my opinion violent games dont create violence, violent people create violence and they are attracted to violent video games. A lot of psychologists agree that there is a correlation between violent video games and violent behavior but it also can be due to the fact that violent people simply prefer to have violent games. In the end what came first mafia, murder, torture or video games? If public didnt want violence then there would be none or close to none violent video games and movies.

I have taken several psychology courses and I am far from being an expert in psychology, but practically all of my professors have agreed that violent fantasies actually reduce violence. Most serial killers dont fantasize they ACT out their fantasies instead, everybody in their lives have wished to kill somebody at some point and by imagining that scenario we wouldnt have to do that. The whole argument about people training to murder is a shallow one because most of the time this training actually fulfills one's desire for violence and they can move on with their regular lives.



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So first it's the mother being ignorant, and the tabloid is piling on propaganda to add to the pile of crap. Fantastic.



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well the mother is just looking for a rational expanation, she didn´t find one that didn´t involve her beeing at least part of the problem so she pointed at the next best thing, remember the days when we had TV to take all the bullets for us, videogames looked nothing like reality so they couldn´t possibly have anything to do with reality, now TV can show rape, murder and genoside (and thats just the news...sad sad world) but Videogames are just as bad as terrorist training camps (ok one notch below that) 

Parents need to take responsibility, not just for their action but for their inaction as well, yes some kids are just hard to deal with (I hope I´m not starting a nature vs. nurture debate.....or am I ???) but you need to know what  you expose your children to and if you give your childern a good set of moral values they will be able to handle much more sick reality(violence is reality and we all have to live with it) without beeing infected by it.