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dallas on 29 September 2008

Not really, b/c blu ray has brought costs up for the PS3 considerably, and still is holding them up b/c of:

-hardware/spec implied requirements for the GPU/CPU
-patents to panny and samsung
-not to mention the cost of the Blu ray drive itself

twesterm, i think that you're oversimplifying things a bit here.



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Garcian Smith on 29 September 2008
Kane said:
I'm betting they won't have discs anymore, only downloadables

 


Most of the Western world still has their bandwidth capped at 25gb/month or less. That's only three DVD9 games a month, at most - and even less when you count multi-DVD games. (Enjoy having your bandwidth capped for the rest of the month when you download Lost Odyssey.) It's entirely feasible that FiOS could live up to its promose of nigh-unlimited bandwidth between then and now, but as it currently stands, we are far from ready for a download-only system.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

kitler53 on 29 September 2008
darthdevidem01 said:
@Kane

puhhhh-lease

90% of the western world can't download at decent speeds yet

 

 and in 4-5 years?  that's a lot of time for improvements.

all the same - i think it would be dumb to go strictly download as that would like limit the number of customers you can sell to.



twesterm on 29 September 2008
dallas said:
Not really, b/c blu ray has brought costs up for the PS3 considerably, and still is holding them up b/c of:

-hardware/spec implied requirements for the GPU/CPU
-patents to panny and samsung
-not to mention the cost of the Blu ray drive itself

twesterm, i think that you're oversimplifying things a bit here.

 

I might be but you still get my point.  It's going to be at least another two years until we see the next XBox and in that time BluRay players will significally come down in price.

As for the other stuff, that cost is always there so that isn't a huge worry.



 

dallas on 29 September 2008

Also, Sony is wanting to expand their production of semiconductors, probably to find a way to make cheaper chips for their electronic products which I think is a brilliant idea and it is entirely possible that Sony will start wanting to make their own Cell chips to avoid having to pay out of the a$$ to some other company



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dallas on 29 September 2008
twesterm said:
dallas said:
Not really, b/c blu ray has brought costs up for the PS3 considerably, and still is holding them up b/c of:

-hardware/spec implied requirements for the GPU/CPU
-patents to panny and samsung
-not to mention the cost of the Blu ray drive itself

twesterm, i think that you're oversimplifying things a bit here.

 

I might be but you still get my point.  It's going to be at least another two years until we see the next XBox and in that time BluRay players will significally come down in price.

As for the other stuff, that cost is always there so that isn't a huge worry.

Yes but these are problems that Sony has right now, that MS does not.  If MS does indeed get a BD drive on its next console then it will have to deal with several expense issues that just are not a problem at the present point in time.

 



Kasz216 on 29 September 2008

I don't see why the 360 would need to put in a Blu-ray drive.

Heck they could use HD-DVD if they cared... or their own format. Like Nintendo likes to do.



Kasz216 on 29 September 2008
dallas said:
Phrancheyez said:
I don't think they'd care that much about it...SONY would be charging them the same they charge everyone else, it's not like MS is trying to end SONY, just the games division=P

 

 Why would Sony want a competitor to have it easy?  If I was Sony, I'd be a d@%k and make MS pay a bit more, b/c I'd know that they'd basically need the technology.  Hey, everything is negotiable.

Cause if they did.... then MS would just charge Sony more for windows on their labtops... and a number of other things.

 



twesterm on 29 September 2008
dallas said:
twesterm said:
dallas said:
Not really, b/c blu ray has brought costs up for the PS3 considerably, and still is holding them up b/c of:

-hardware/spec implied requirements for the GPU/CPU
-patents to panny and samsung
-not to mention the cost of the Blu ray drive itself

twesterm, i think that you're oversimplifying things a bit here.

 

I might be but you still get my point.  It's going to be at least another two years until we see the next XBox and in that time BluRay players will significally come down in price.

As for the other stuff, that cost is always there so that isn't a huge worry.

Yes but these are problems that Sony has right now, that MS does not.  If MS does indeed get a BD drive on its next console then it will have to deal with several expense issues that just are not a problem at the present point in time.

 

So then it will be around the same price level as the PS3.  Personally I don't like the high prices but in their eyes as long as they're about level with Sony they really don't care that much.

 



 

dallas on 29 September 2008

@Kasz216 -But why would they want to do that and avoid being able to play a dvd on the next xbox? That's a big part of the reason why the PS2 won over the xbox. I don't see why MS and Sony can't work out a deal that they can both live with, although I expect sony to up the cost a bit still ;-0