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Kwaad said:

I noticed alot of people on this site who play on a ceterin console that starts with a W, and is made by a company that starts with N buy alot of games.

Some of them own 10-15. Some own 20-25. Some even own 30+.

I just wanna ask why? There arent more than 10 good games out for the console (1). Why buy 20 games (or 1000$) worth of games that arent worth playing almost? I dont know a single person who owns more than 10 PS3 games. Yet, there's numerus people who own 20-30 games for the 'W' console.

I am thinking about the attach ratios. The Attach ratio for the 'W' console, is much lower than any other console of it's age (2). Especially when you remove a 'pack-in' demo, and a 10$ game that comes with the controller. The attach ratio is amazingly low. Now back to my point. I knew quite a few people who own 20+ Games for the 'W' Console. and becuase of that, I would think could that possibly 'skew' the attach ratio's? What are the true attach ratios for the console? How does it compare to the other consoles? Why is it where it is?

1/ Firstly, this is completely subjective. Your definition of a "good game" may be nothing like mine, or the next persons. It simply means that YOU won't buy more than 10 titles.

2/ Well, except the PS3 - right? Otherwise lets see some figures and proof please.

3/ You can't go discounting games like WiiPlay - it still counts sorry. We actually play it, and it IS a game.

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Two main groups of people buy the Wii - especially near launch.

1/ Nintendo fans (typical of the people on this board that own a Wii): will buy one, and buy lots of games. Because the Wii has a "new" control system, old games become new again - and this results in more games being purchased than normal. Add to this "launch-title-itis" (wanting games to play, so you buy them at launch), buying games for certain genres & smash hits (Rayman, Zelda, etc..) - and you get a lot of games bought by this group.

2/ Wii Sports fans: No question that Wii Sports is a huge drawcard for the Wii, and is the main reason a lot of people are buying the console. Couple this with the fact that the title is bundled (so YOU aren't counting it - right?), and you get a very low attach rate for this group. This group of consumers are NOT gamers - so conventional titles hold no appeal for them. A typical "extra" puchase would be WiiPlay - multiplayer games, extra controller, etc.

As more non-conventional games are launched - such as WiiFit - you'll see this attach rate rise significantly. And when we get the next batch of Wiixxx titles (WiiMotorSports, WiiSports II, Nintendogs, etc..) you'll see it go through the roof.

Its not that different from the DS - which still has a significantly better attach rate than the competition. 



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Kwaad said:

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C'mon Kwaad. You know better than this. Just because you are saying something is a troll post, and then even hide it - doesn't excuse the fact that you are doing it.

If someone insulted you in the same way, would it still be an insult? Yes.

Consider this a warning.

No jokes is one of the new rules... got it.

There should be ALOT more warnings going around then. I'll report every joke I see.

EDIT: Thanks for the warning as I didnt know jokes broke the rules.

EDIT2: This is in no way a joke. I am being serious. As jokes will get you banned.

Kwaad, grow up. You can't hide behind a "joke", when you are doing something that is breaking rules. Try stealing a car, shoplifting, or numerous other offenses - then when you are caught say "C'mon guys - I was just joking". I'm sure that will go down really well.

You broke the rules. Someone complained. I responded to that complaint. I didn't pick out your post, nor target you - just trying to do the job that mods are supposed to do.

If someone doesn't jump on things like this (and it has been addressed before - and I think you know that) then people take advantage of it, and it spirals out of control.

IMO, if you DO want to do joke trolling for the sake of it - create a thread for it (in the off topic section), and dedicate the entire thread to trolling/jokes. Don't just randomly insert these "jokes" into threads that are trying to be serious, and about a legit topic. 

 



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And back on the original topic: why do people buy so many Wii games with low scores and people don't buy the PS3 games with the higher scores?

The first thing that comes to mind is the old topic of "do reviewers really know what they're talking about" and "do reviewers know how to review Wii games?" If what Kwaad is saying is true, then yes, reviewers know jack crap. It turns out all those Wii games that scored less than 60 really are fun despite the bad graphics. People simply want to have fun and that's what the Wii is letting them do.

Another thing that comes to mind is people just want something new. Rather than buy x iteration of Generic Shooter 7 or Super Mud Car Rally Extreme, they buy Red Steel and Excite Truck because they offer something different. Whether you want to admit it or not, before last November the game industry was in a major rut. Nothing new was really happening for the most part, there were sequels galore, and everything was becoming stale. The Wii promised to change that and people took the bait.

The last thing that comes to mind is perhaps the Wii just does have better games. I know you like to call them crap games because the games aren't your cup of tea, but apparently a good number of people don't think these games are crap. They play them, they have fun, they tell their friends about the games, their friends play the game and have fun. I've convinced a crapload of people to buy a Wii just by letting them watch someone else play Rayman: Raving Rabbids and I've convinced even more people to buy Super Paper Mario and RE4 because they're just so great, even if they are ports or two years old.

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So there you have it. When you talk to a Wii owner, you get a wide variety of answers. when you ask a PS3 owner the same question, you usually get 1 of 3 games. If you really want to see this in effect, go ahead and start a What are you playing on your Wii right now? thread and then do the same for the PS3 and 360 and see what happens. 

Who knows, maybe if you ask that question you might get an idea of why the Wii is going to sell more than 10 million consoles before it's been out a year, 360 sales have seriously slowed down, and PS3 sales only rise when they cheapen their console.