akuma587 said:
Socialists Unite!
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| The Ghost of RubangB said: The crisis is nowhere near over. This is how we become socialists. It's a long and hard war, and we just won the first battle. MWAHAHAHAHA!!! |
It's funny, when the government gives breaks to "big oil" for the sole purpose of making sure the rich are taken care of, you think it's horrible. When then do the same thing under the blanket of helping out everyone, you rejoice.
If the first step towards socialism is duping your citizens to think the people in power are helping the little man, then you are right. Congress just one the first battle.
TheRealMafoo said:
It's funny, when the government gives breaks to "big oil" for the sole purpose of making sure the rich are taken care of, you think it's horrible. When then do the same thing under the blanket of helping out everyone, you rejoice. If the first step towards socialism is duping your citizens to think the people in power are helping the little man, then you are right. Congress just one the first battle. |
I was kidding.
I don't care how they fix this problem. My only concern is that they do, because I don't believe a free market would, and I don't believe we have one or should start to have one now. On the other hand, I don't think giving tax breaks to big oil is a solution to a problem. I believe it is a problem. If we'd been taxing big oil all along, this crisis wouldn't be as much of a burden on the middle class.
And I don't care about making sure the rich are taken care of. I don't think anybody needs to take care of the rich. By definition, they are rich enough to take care of themselves. I think these companies should be saved, but I think the people involved should all be fired.
The Ghost of RubangB said:
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Awesome pic dude! I saved a copy in my pictures folder.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
The Ghost of RubangB said:
I was kidding. And I don't care about making sure the rich are taken care of. I don't think anybody needs to take care of the rich. By definition, they are rich enough to take care of themselves. I think these companies should be saved, but I think the people involved should all be fired.
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You cant' fire the people responsible. They took there million and walked a long time ago. All this bailout is doing is paying the rich. I don't care when "Big Oil" makes record profits. They deserve it, as they provide a service to this country. They earn it. For many many years "Big Oil" had losses. No one cared about them then. They starting making money and now everyone wants to take it.
That's a different issue. The issue here is the economy sucks. It's going to suck for a long time. If they bail them our or don't bail them out, it's going to suck the same. The only difference is companies that have lined the pockets of congressmen are going to get taken care of at the expense of tax payers.
And congress is using a scare tactic to cover it up. I think it's disgusting, and makes me wonder why I love a country that can fleece it's people like this. I am embarrassed of my government.
I love how the government operates. They cause this mess, and then they scare people into giving them more power. Really, Mr. Bernanke and Mr. Paulson, you two goofballs who have continually been wrong and contributed to this mess now say our doom is imminent if we do not bestow upon you more power? Good job, you two, I never thought it would work. I now realize I was mistaken.
| Jackson50 said: I love how the government operates. They cause this mess, and then they scare people into giving them more power. Really, Mr. Bernanke and Mr. Paulson, you two goofballs who have continually been wrong and contributed to this mess now say our doom is imminent if we do not bestow upon you more power? Good job, you two, I never thought it would work. I now realize I was mistaken. |
Very apropos analysis.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| The Ghost of RubangB said: The crisis is nowhere near over. This is how we become socialists. It's a long and hard war, and we just won the first battle. MWAHAHAHAHA!!! |
Your like... 50 years behind.
Heck even before then. The US has been socialist ever since we stopped having a flat tax (if we ever did have one.) Just less so then most people.
I was kinda hoping the Republican House wouldn't get the Democrat mandated 100 votes just to see if Pelosi would blink since she seemed to indicate she had more votes to pass it then that but wanted to make sure both parties took the hit for voting for the bailout.
I don't know if the bailout is a good thing or a bad thing... but someone should of insisted that Paulson get replaced with someone who's fault this wasn't. Maybe convince Warren Buffet to take over. He's gotten really political lately and is a huge Obama guy so he'd work well with him when he's likely the next president... and McCain and republicans in general respect him anyway because of who he is and what he does.
He'd be good at figuring out who to bailout and will be helpfull and who wouldn't... and heck probably get the government a profit in the longterm. Though liquidating his assets and removing him as head of his own company probably would of screwed up the market even more though since he basically is Berkshire.
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Kasz216 said:
Your like... 50 years behind. Heck even before then. The US has been socialist ever since we stopped having a flat tax (if we ever did have one.) Just less so then most people.
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Indeed, most people are blissfully ignorant of how socialist this country is. I mean we are driven by capitalism, but if you got rid of many of the programs that are flat-out socialist (Social Security anyone or public education?), people would shit a brick.
Americans are professional amnesiacs and great at remembering meaningless slogans, like "tax and spend liberals" and "Big Oil."
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
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