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BenKenobi88 said:
ckmlb said:
BenKenobi88 said:



You totally missed what I said.

I hate rap music...but I'm not going to denounce it as an art form...and neither should you.

"Where is the 3rd party support?" That's what this thread is about! Look at the list! There is the support! It's not the greatest, most amazing game list in the WORLD EVER...but neither is the 360/PS3 list...I don't understand why you can't read the list of games, and say, "oh, there's the 3rd party games! I must not have seen them before!" For the most part, I'm not interested in the majority of games in the 360/PS3 list, and to be honest, I'm not interested in most of the Wii list either. It's the few games in both lists that interest me...those are the games that matter.

Just play No More Heroes and be happy, sheesh.


I will play No More Heroes and i will enjoy it. Doesn't mean I can't bring the issue up. The list of games being thrown around here is mediocre at best in my view and I am conveying this view to you and others. But in return I am bashed as a fanboy simply because I don't like certain games on the Wii( majority of 3rd party games).

Also, I never denounced rap as not an art form I denounced 50 cent as not an artist. 



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Very good points from BenKenobi.



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Wondering

Fearing

Doubting. 

DonWii said:
DonWii said:
@ckmlb,

I would like you to respond to my post, since you seem to have time to argue with a lot of, IMO, senseless posts.

@naznatips,

ckmlb is right about that. I remember reading that same article.
It is around the bottom of page 2, if you can't find it.

 


Maybe I could get him now?

ckmlb said:
ItsaMii said:
Drop the "Wii 3rd party support is all mini game or cash in ports" argument. This will be obsolete in a few months. Like a good fanboy you should innovate and move to the "Wii life span is 5 years, PS3 will last 10 years".
Fanboy huh? I'm sure there is a massive flow of great third party games coming to Wii in the next few months as shown in the list made over here except they are mostly cash ins and mini game collections.

 


 I give up.

You managed to piss off bodhesatva, the most mature (not mature in the God of War sense) user in this board. I pretty much agree with you about most of the list being crappy. I would say the same about the PS3/360/PC list. The point is opinion (mine or yours) does not matter.

You are a hypocrite. You call others fanboys and get all emotional when someone tells you the same.
 You assume a lot of things about games you do not own orpeople you do not know and still say we are puting words in your mouth. You lost this one and lost more thanthe discussion. Your logic is flawed and have double standards.

Why don`t you Just make this worse by telling yourself that you lost due to the Wii fanboys ganging up on you.



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"You are for ever angry, all you care about is intelligence, but I repeat again that I would give away all this superstellar life, all the ranks and honours, simply to be transformed into the soul of a merchant's wife weighing eighteen stone and set candles at God's shrine."

DonWii said:
DonWii said:
naznatips said:
ckmlb said:
There have been big 3rd party announcements all year for the 360 and PS3.

There weren't many new games announced at E3, but everyone was talking about how the Wii was gonna have a turn around with 3rd parties at E3 and nothing of the sort happened.

So when is this big 3rd party support supposed to come? I expect some Japanese support at TGS but I have no idea if they're gonna be any big games.

I don't remember people suggesting specifically lots of 3rd party Wii stuff, though MoH Wii with 32 player online was pretty huge. Personally, I have said time and time again that since 3rd parties didn't anounce shift in focus for the Wii till a couple months ago, you won't see the effects of this shift till 2008. People jump on any opportunity to criticize the Wii though, so the creation of this topic does not surprise me (nor does your reply ckmlb).

As far as TGS goes, it won't necessarily be Wii focussed but it will certainly be Nintendo focussed. DQIX and all those SE projects that are for Nintendo systems will take top stage. The Japanese don't care for the PS3 or 360 much, so I don't expect a whole lot of attention paid to those systems at TGS from 3rd parties. FFXIII may make an appearance, but again it's second stage to DQIX.

Edit: Source shouldn't you have Katamari on there from Namco for Wii games? It was confirmed that the PS3 version was dropped in favor of a Wii version (a nasty little blow and certainly evidence of a shift).


Well said, naznatips.

Simple: Third parties made up their minds before the Wii launched that they would support PS3/360. Analysts did not expect it to sell, no one did. The PS3/360 projects coming out have been in development for a while.

Once the Wii showed that it was here to stay, many third parties have begun to support it. Sure, quite a number of projects are quick cash ins, because they want to make some money this holiday season. They know the Wii is selling, will be selling in the holiday season. They are not going to have big projects ready, so they get out whatever they can. All of the simple/mini-games/ports are coming out this year. I did not hear any company announcing mini-games for 2008. They are putting everything in for the holiday. It is a last-minute strategy.

Alongside these, however, there ARE good games coming. And, in 2008, we will see some of the bigger projects that third parties are cooking up. You could speculate that they are not coming, but I say they are being developed as we speak.


@ckmlb,

What I posted earlier, which you just happen to overlook, explains the current situation.

As you said, games like No More Heores are what the Wii needs. However, Suda51 showed their support for the Wii early. Hence, why we are getting a quality title. Capcom and Konami, Zack and Wiki and Deweys Adventure, also unique solid titles that are coming to the Wii (Although I will admit that they look a tad to kid friendly for my own taste, but the gameplay seems uniqe andgreat).

I have argued this many many times: Western based companies are the main leaders of casual stuff for the Wii. They are also some of the latest to realize the Wii's potential, and the ones throwing us some shovel ware. They have, along with many other big third party develpers, their bigger projects, which they started before they saw the success of the Wii, coming to the 360/PS3 this year and early next year. I wont argue that.

But as you said yourself, "Believe me there is almost nothing on PS3 or 360 3rd party that I want to play as much as No More Heroes on the Wii." We just have to wait longer, because no one saw what a huge success the Wii would be.

 

YOU ARE WRONG CKMLB... Not really, but maybe that will get peoples attention. If it doesnt, I will start posting some pics.

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libellule said:
==> OK, Wii possess more third party games and they are exclusive to Wii (opposed to Xbox360/PS3)
but who cares of these wii games, right now ?
Third party devellopper most wanted games :

Assassin creed / soul calibur 4 / resident evil 5 / CoD4/ UT3/ GTA4 / PEs2008
nothing on the Wii

I may have forget some game but sincerely, we all know that FOR THE MOMENT
tihrd party games for Wii are absolutely NOT the most anticipated games that are coming to be released. None of these third party game are RIGHT NOW a most wanted games, even for Wii owners.

See, this is the same crap.  Anticipation is an OPINION.  You're opinions and ckmlb's opinions and my opinions are NOT FACTS.  Bodhesatva here honestly cares far more for those Wii games than the 360 and PS3 games, as he has stated repeatedly, and he shouldn't have to be told his opinion is wrong.  That's my issue here.  State your opinions, but STOP STATING THEM AS FACT.  The fact is there are lots of 3rd party games comming to the Wii.  Whether you care about them or not is your opinion, so don't tell people that they are crap.  They are crap to YOU, not to everyone. 



ckmlb said:
BenKenobi88 said:
ckmlb said:
BenKenobi88 said:



You totally missed what I said.

I hate rap music...but I'm not going to denounce it as an art form...and neither should you.

"Where is the 3rd party support?" That's what this thread is about! Look at the list! There is the support! It's not the greatest, most amazing game list in the WORLD EVER...but neither is the 360/PS3 list...I don't understand why you can't read the list of games, and say, "oh, there's the 3rd party games! I must not have seen them before!" For the most part, I'm not interested in the majority of games in the 360/PS3 list, and to be honest, I'm not interested in most of the Wii list either. It's the few games in both lists that interest me...those are the games that matter.

Just play No More Heroes and be happy, sheesh.


I will play No More Heroes and i will enjoy it. Doesn't mean I can't bring the issue up. The list of games being thrown around here is mediocre at best in my view and I am conveying this view to you and others. But in return I am bashed as a fanboy simply because I don't like certain games on the Wii( majority of 3rd party games).

Also, I never denounced rap as not an art form I denounced 50 cent as not an artist.


Dude, you're making such a fuss about it. If the games seem that bad to you then just ignore them. You don't have to go on a forum bashing quest to show everyone what you think of it. That's what this is about. Others might think of these games differently from you so you might just want to take into opinion what these people have to say as well. One post to express your feelings on these games is enough.

BTW, who cares about 50 cent? That guy is bad..



Deep into the darkness pearing

Long i stood there

Wondering

Fearing

Doubting. 

For someone who's so mature Bodhesatva seems to keep switching between liking traditional games and the new Wii type games a lot.

Whenever it's time to criticize the PS3 and 360 games he points out that they are violent teen games but for the Wii those games are perfectly fine and should be bought.

I'm not getting emotional for being called a fanboy. If I was I would be off being emotional or something I wouldn't be continuing to post here.

I got used to it a long time ago on this site that most of the people are Wii people for lack of a better term and they will attack me every time I criticize the Wii or the big N.



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ckmlb said:
BenKenobi88 said:
ckmlb said:
BenKenobi88 said:



You totally missed what I said.

I hate rap music...but I'm not going to denounce it as an art form...and neither should you.

"Where is the 3rd party support?" That's what this thread is about! Look at the list! There is the support! It's not the greatest, most amazing game list in the WORLD EVER...but neither is the 360/PS3 list...I don't understand why you can't read the list of games, and say, "oh, there's the 3rd party games! I must not have seen them before!" For the most part, I'm not interested in the majority of games in the 360/PS3 list, and to be honest, I'm not interested in most of the Wii list either. It's the few games in both lists that interest me...those are the games that matter.

Just play No More Heroes and be happy, sheesh.


I will play No More Heroes and i will enjoy it. Doesn't mean I can't bring the issue up. The list of games being thrown around here is mediocre at best in my view and I am conveying this view to you and others. But in return I am bashed as a fanboy simply because I don't like certain games on the Wii( majority of 3rd party games).

Also, I never denounced rap as not an art form I denounced 50 cent as not an artist.


 I don't remember anybody saying you can't hate minigames...there's no "fanboys" here bashing you for thinking the list is mediocre.

You're getting bashed because you seem to think because after stating your view, that the Wii list is mediocre, that this is fact.  It's not fact...it may be the general opinion, the majority opinion, but it's not fact, and it's in fact irrelevant to this topic. 



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Updating the Wii list as I think of new stuff. Other people help me out!

Soul Calibur Legends
Space Station Tycoon
Mario And Sonic
Nights
Rygar
Zack and Wiki
RE: UC
Rayman 2
My Word Coach
Red Steel 2
Boogie
Mysims
Smarty Pants
Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire
Blast Works: Build, Fuse and Destroy
Trauma Center 2
Dewy's Adventure
Destroy All Humans
Big Willy Unleashed
De Blob
Medal of Honor
Furu Furu Park
Bleach
Real Heroes
Forever Blue
Geometry Wars
Chocobo Dungeons
Carnival Games
Rayman Ravind Rabbids 2
Reeled!
Agatha Christie
Destiny of Zorro
Dave Mirra BMX Challenge
One Piece: Unlimited Adventure
Opoona
EA Playground
Cosmic Family
Nitrobike
Ghost Squad
Godzilla Unleashed
SD Gundam: Scad Hammers
Fishing Master
Cruis'n

I'm still not including budget titles, by the way. Keep adding to the list if you can, as I'm still quite sure I haven't hit everything. 



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