Graphics are important,but so is the gameplay and fun factor of that game. If a game relies on graphics only,then it will be a "beautifull disaster".

@ .jayderyu

The acceptable level changes, even PS3 games with graphics way above PS2/Wii's capabilities have been slammed for weak graphics (for example Haze, which is pretty decent actually).

IMO the PS2 hardware is really too weak for good FPS games, demands are now getting higher more quickly because people are buying HDTVs en masse. The PS2 although much weaker at producing appealing PAL/NTSC games than the PS3, it was quite suitable for the bulk of game styles (albeit limited with regard to what you can do) on a low spec PAL/NTSC TV set. God of War 2 is amazing, pushing the limits of what can be done on a PS2 (but sacrifices had to be made and the game was very well optimised for the hardware).

Killzone 2 on a PS2 would IMO not be considered acceptable in line with modern FPS expectations. The PS2 hardware is too limited to really make people go "Wow!" for that sort of game, nomatter how much time and effort Sony would have invested into a PS2 version.

@OP

the wii says hi lol

mmm graphics are not the most important aspect of a game, but is one of the most important, i remember my friend who owns a ps3 and wii and we recently played the force unleashed on both consoles, the controls on the wii were great but the graphics were so bad that we just came always back to the ps3 even if the controls were cool and everything... i dont think graphics are everything, but when you have a difference that big it makes you wanna stay with the better looking one

@ 4lc0h0l

Yep I heard about lots of people complain about the Wii version's graphics and general game complexity of Star Wars. This was one 3rd party game I thought had potential on the Wii as a Light Saber sounded like a good fit for the Wii-mote.

I think it's one of the reasons why 3rd party games often sell relatively slow on the Wii considering its install base. Controls on a PC is usually very limited (often designed with keyboard/mouse control in mind), but buying a PC or a 360/PS3 version often seem more appealing, also due to Wii games looking less appealing and simplified (sacrificed) on the Wii

IMO Star Wars on the PS3/360 feels a little disappointing as well. The graphics are OK, but the gameplay also seems to be merely OK. The game looked more promising in previews.

MikeB said: @ 4lc0h0l Yep I heard about lots of people complain about the Wii version's graphics and general game complexity of Star Wars. This was one 3rd party game I thought had potential on the Wii as a Light Saber sounded like a good fit for the Wii-mote. I think it's one of the reasons why 3rd party games often sell relatively slow on the Wii considering its install base. Controls on a PC is usually very limited (often designed with keyboard/mouse control in mind), but buying a PC or a 360/PS3 version often seem more appealing, also due to Wii games looking less appealing and simplified (sacrificed) on the Wii IMO Star Wars on the PS3/360 feels a little disappointing as well. The graphics are OK, but the gameplay also seems to be merely OK. The game looked more promising in previews.

 

 yeah TFU its a pretty standar game, but yeah the crappy visuals on the wii makes it seem like overpriced when you have both versions to compare

Graphics are important. It is the first thing you notice when you play a new game. If a (next-gen) game has bad graphics then from the start you know that it is going to suck.

MikeB said: @ 4lc0h0l Yep I heard about lots of people complain about the Wii version's graphics and general game complexity of Star Wars. This was one 3rd party game I thought had potential on the Wii as a Light Saber sounded like a good fit for the Wii-mote. I think it's one of the reasons why 3rd party games often sell relatively slow on the Wii considering its install base. Controls on a PC is usually very limited (often designed with keyboard/mouse control in mind), but buying a PC or a 360/PS3 version often seem more appealing, also due to Wii games looking less appealing and simplified (sacrificed) on the Wii IMO Star Wars on the PS3/360 feels a little disappointing as well. The graphics are OK, but the gameplay also seems to be merely OK. The game looked more promising in previews.

Controls on a PC are limited...?  There's tons more buttons and inputs available than with console games...

BenKenobi88 said: MikeB said: @ 4lc0h0l Yep I heard about lots of people complain about the Wii version's graphics and general game complexity of Star Wars. This was one 3rd party game I thought had potential on the Wii as a Light Saber sounded like a good fit for the Wii-mote. I think it's one of the reasons why 3rd party games often sell relatively slow on the Wii considering its install base. Controls on a PC is usually very limited (often designed with keyboard/mouse control in mind), but buying a PC or a 360/PS3 version often seem more appealing, also due to Wii games looking less appealing and simplified (sacrificed) on the Wii IMO Star Wars on the PS3/360 feels a little disappointing as well. The graphics are OK, but the gameplay also seems to be merely OK. The game looked more promising in previews. Controls on a PC are limited...?  There's tons more buttons and inputs available than with console games...

Yes, it's one of the oldest forms of most basic game control. All Amigas had a keyboard and a mouse by default, but of course almost everyone preferred to use arcade sticks for playing most kinds of games. Some games are best played with a mouse like Lemmings, the Amiga original was the only version you could play with two mice simultaneously for multi-player fun.

We have come a long way, you can now hook up 7 far more advanced wireless gamepads. The PC lacks flexibility in this regard.

For PS3 games for which it makes sense to be able to use mouse and keyboard, I am all for supporting this. It's a minor effort as virtually all PC games are already designed with this in mind.

BenKenobi88 said: MikeB said: @ 4lc0h0l Controls on a PC is usually very limited (often designed with keyboard/mouse control in mind), but buying a PC or a 360/PS3 version often seem more appealing, also due to Wii games looking less appealing and simplified (sacrificed) on the Wii Controls on a PC are limited...? There's tons more buttons and inputs available than with console games...

Haha, that was last drop. Now I know to ignore MikeB:s posts. :D

(Sorry, nothing personal, but you make no sense. You didn't really make any sense before either, but I tried to understand.)