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Better graphics usually means more polygons per second on screen and that could mean a lot more going on at the same time on a game, like lots and lots of enemies at the same time



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Hephaestos said:

and about the comment of identical games with improved graphics (nes vs PS3), you have to consider the price... new wii games are often €50 or even 40, while HD consoles have them at 70 or 60.... i'm sorry but you pay a hefty premium for the little extra...

 

I think you get a lot extra, not only improved graphics, also improved game compexity and sound in general. Of course a movie like Lords of the Ring costs a lot more to make than a B movie with bad special effects. A good quality PS3 game of course costs more to make than the average Wii game, because there's a lot more headroom to do more. (They could do the same game without much effort, like the MegaMan 9 on the PS3 and Wii). PS3 owners wouldn't be happy with Wii quality games.

BTW I just bought WipeOut HD for 17.99 Euro, it's a great game with great graphics in 1080p and 60 FPS. But the game looks good on a PAL TV as well and is amazing fun (like Super Stardust HD for example, which is even cheaper).



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they integral part of the game one of the thing i enjoy good gameplay, excellent storyline and music.

its that the graphic show how big the project was, each detail its always a piece of art total eye candy.

it adds something different to the expierience.



MikeB said:
Hephaestos said:

and about the comment of identical games with improved graphics (nes vs PS3), you have to consider the price... new wii games are often €50 or even 40, while HD consoles have them at 70 or 60.... i'm sorry but you pay a hefty premium for the little extra...

 

I think you get a lot extra, not only improved graphics, also improved game compexity and sound in general. Of course a movie like Lords of the Ring costs a lot more to make than a B movie with bad special effects. A good quality PS3 game of course costs more to make than the average Wii game, because there's a lot more headroom to do more. (They could do the same game without much effort, like the MegaMan 9 on the PS3 and Wii). PS3 owners wouldn't be happy with Wii quality games.

BTW I just bought WipeOut HD for 17.99 Euro, it's a great game with great graphics in 1080p and 60 FPS. But the game looks of good on a PAL TV as well and is amazing fun (like Super Stardust HD for example, which is even cheaper).

Game complexity??

I hardly see how a PS3 game is more complex than a Wii.... the Wii having motion control helping a lot as far as complexity goes.

But yeah if you talk of low priced or premium games then yeah the price difference isn't much and you get a better deal in that sense.

(and if you like gfx, the price might be worth it!)

 



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I can say, at least for same games, certainly not.



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graphics of games from the same gen. doesn't matter but when u compare different generations it does



Hephaestos said:
MikeB said:
Hephaestos said:

and about the comment of identical games with improved graphics (nes vs PS3), you have to consider the price... new wii games are often €50 or even 40, while HD consoles have them at 70 or 60.... i'm sorry but you pay a hefty premium for the little extra...

 

I think you get a lot extra, not only improved graphics, also improved game compexity and sound in general. Of course a movie like Lords of the Ring costs a lot more to make than a B movie with bad special effects. A good quality PS3 game of course costs more to make than the average Wii game, because there's a lot more headroom to do more. (They could do the same game without much effort, like the MegaMan 9 on the PS3 and Wii). PS3 owners wouldn't be happy with Wii quality games.

BTW I just bought WipeOut HD for 17.99 Euro, it's a great game with great graphics in 1080p and 60 FPS. But the game looks of good on a PAL TV as well and is amazing fun (like Super Stardust HD for example, which is even cheaper).

Game complexity??

I hardly see how a PS3 game is more complex than a Wii.... the Wii having motion control helping a lot as far as complexity goes.

But yeah if you talk of low priced or premium games then yeah the price difference isn't much and you get a better deal in that sense.

(and if you like gfx, the price might be worth it!)

 

 

The Wii mote isn't very complex technically. The control scheme works well for certain games, while IMO for others it doesn't suit well. Head tracking and hand motion detection in early 90s games were more complex.

With game complexity I mean, advanced physics, intelligent AI, amount of action possible to generate on screen, etc. The PS3 can do everything the Wii does (including using the Wii-mote under Linux, it's simply a driver / rights related obstacle). Recognizing hand movements in Playstation Eye games is often technically more complex.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

function(graphics, gameplay, storyline, control scheme, originality, replay value, amount of glitches, X)= greateness_of_video_game



Great gameplay + Bad graphics >> Bad gameplay + Great graphics
Great gameplay + Great graphics is IMO >> Great gameplay + Bad graphics

In addition things like game complexity, presentation, off-line / online functionality (online leaderboards, co-op, multiplayer, trophies, etc), story telling and audio also matter. How much the different aspects matter depends on type of game.

A Pacman game is a less demanding game gerne, but still I much prefer Edgar M Vigdal's Deluxe Pacman (on Amiga and PC, shareware) better than emulating the original arcade game, with its much improved graphics in addition to the many newly added game ideas. IMO Pacman on the Atari 2600 sucks... (nomatter how well the game sold for its time!)

Atari 2600 Pacman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6paQTUtV89g

 



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PDF said:

Graphics = gets you in the mood
Game play = sex

 

OK...

But you rather do this with a pretty lady, right? Or you prefer the neighbour's dog?



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales