That must mean you've driven all these cares in real life!  You're so cool

 No but polyphony digital actually does and takes their time with it too.

You obviously know nothing about GT4. Not only were there a good number of new tracks but they included the Nurburgring and the Circuit de la Sarthe, which both added immense depth to the game. Then there's 24 hour races, B-Spec mode, Driving Missions, Photo Mode, about twice the number of cars that GT3 had, the campaign is at least 100 hours longer and if you go back to them now you realise that the GT4 graphics are leagues better than GT3.

You say the only reason people think GT is the best is that it's a Sony game. I can throw that right back at you and say that the only reason you have so much against it is because it's a Sony game, and the only reason you have so much against GT4 is that it's simply one of the best videogames ever made and it burns you that it's made by Sony.

On topic:

GT sells better because it's more established and Forza is the imitation. However, it's also because PD are among the most dedicated developers that exist (although I'd rather they didn't take their time so much) - as many will know they designed the in-car computer on the Nissan GT-R. They're simply a part of the industry and it's unlikely that any other developer will become so any time soon.

What the xbox fanboys (and there are plenty of them here on this thread) don't understand is that the whole automotive industry is behind Gran Turismo, people that actually work on cars, test drive different cars, even car manufacturers reveal their cars through Gran Turismo.

These are professional car enthusiasts, not some kids on a forum that have an agenda and everything is about console wars. They don't have an agenda or console preference, most of them don't even play videogames save for racing simulators. The consensus is out there, Gran Turismo is the best racing car simulator on Home Consoles, this is not just my opinon, but of that of MANY PROFESSIONAL AUTOMOTIVE ENTHUSIASTS. The xbox fanboys can blindly ignore that, but it is what it is.

Also on the topic of "There's more competition now" and "The PS3 userbase is so much smaller", well that didn't stop GT5P from outselling GT4P did it? Also it's worth mentioning that competition on FPS on consoles is much more fierce than racing sims, and the 360 userbase is smaller than the XBox as of right now and that didn't stop Halo 3 from outselling the 1st one and being well on its way to outselling the 2nd one.

I'll make a one year signature and avatar bet with anyone here that GT5 will reach 10+ million LTD on the PS3.

FilaBrasileiro said: Tyrannical said: Gran Turismo's days are over, the first Forza already trumped that series in terms of realism. Turismo is still just an arcade style racer, while Forza is a racing simulator.

Fucking ROFLMAO....this guy tyrannical must be living under a rock...and BIG rock.

Smart marketing helps. Did you notice you just quoted GT's marketing motto? The truth is, both Forza and GT are sub-standard as far as driving simulators go - the real ones can't be made on consoles anyway, that's why they are pc only.

But good marketing makes you believe that when you play GT you are closer to reality than the competitors - it's the real driving simulator, afterall... right?

They also had that Forza 2/Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2-pack you could buy last year.  We have tons of used copies at our store.

but gran turismo IS better alot better tan forza,  not because mass because simply because its ages better than why it have outsell every car simulator until now

I've never seen a thread where the trolls have fallen so gracefully on their faces. Quite entertaining.

Hilarious.