Yes, he got potential Dolla Dolla. Even so, he thinks too highly of himself. Miyamoto would not call him fatso, he would talk about games and new concepts like how to keep them fresh. When he says that he failed to make a entertaining game since Mario 64 it shows how stupid he is. It is like saying: you have great ideas, but it is still boring. Miyamoto made a lot of games after Mario 64 both entertaining and fresh. I don`t like all Miyamoto games, Nintendogs and Pikmin are not my kind of game. But those games have new and interesting concepts and appeal to a lot of gamers. Jaffe best game was God of War. The game lacks depth and originality. If he thinks he can tell Miyamoto that his works are lacking something he should just give up video games at all. Maybe those harpies with silicon breasts looks good on his mind.

 Problably both. It was not flaming, I just think that someone who worked on a game like God of War have no right to tell Miyamoto what a good game is. Bodhesatva said better than me the reasons "the puerile style and melodramatic direction in the teenage-male-focused games such as God of War". On a side note God of War really have some great art direction and the story  told like a Greek tragedy adds to the game atmosphere. But the giant breasts on semi naked oracles and medusas, gory gameplay and Kratos attitude destroy the game.

Do not take it like a direct attack Saiyar. I am not angry at you for posting it. I do not think you would agree if Jaffe was serious. I tried to post the response in the same joke-like way that Jaffe did. The thread users responses tell me that I failed. It is ok, but I stil think he is overated.

Jaffe does not say anything like that, in his MAKE BELIEVE CONVERSATION, he said that HE loved no game after Mario 64 (I presume he is entitled to his own opinion?), something with which alot of hardoce gamers would agree with. At no point does he say anything like ALL Miyamoto games after Mario 64 are crap, like you seem to think he did.

Again I posted this because it is meant to be funny. There are plenty of Miyamoto games since Mario 64 that I have enjoyed so even I don't agree with him. Please stop taking it so seriously. Do you honestly believe thhat Jaffe would speak like that? We all know that Miyamoto is far to respectful to speak like that, this is what makes this MAKE BELIEVE CONVERSATION so funny.

 I never said like it was crap. It is more like looking down on his work. "It is cute", "great art direction", "innovative".

Why did not you face my response in a MAKE BELIEVE way like Jaffe`s conversation. You even said I was flaming. I got defensive after this.

Miyamoto gets low scores all the time, specially on Gamespot. A 7 does not give Jaffe the right to say fuck you. I`d better drop this topic, it will turn into flamewar soon with some users that I shoul not name see this.

Just forget what I said (even though I think it is true) and let`s move on.

Zelda OoT came after Mario 64 and I think all hardcore gamers (except for me) think it is the best Zelda/game ever.

Did it (I had no idea since I played Mario 64, OoT, Goldeneye and Mario Kart at the same time)? Then Jaffe is talking out his arse since OoT is one of the greatest games of all time.

Sorry about calling you a flamer (you seemed to me to take it very seriously), I think Bodhesatea expressed my feelings on your first post far better than I did.

I honestly don't think Jaffe looks down on Miyamato in any way. If he had gone on an all out assault on Miyamoto I would have been among the first to call him a total prick, since Miyamoto is one of the undisputed geniuses of the gaming industry. I only posted this since I thought it had comedy value.

 Noooooooooooo. I do not dislike OoT. I love it. I am what you would call a "Zelda bitch". I love them all. But in my humble opinion OoT is not the best Zelda ever. It was the first Zelda I played. In the middle of the game I started playing Link to the past and it stole my attention from it`s bigger brother. A year later I got a GBC and Link`s Awakening DX and was shocked to see how a game developed for a system inferior to Nes could have so much depht (it was a port after all). I have played the original Zelda in a shitty emulator about 3 years ago and it got me hooked to the PC like no other game (save for Chrono Trigger) did. Yes 3 years ago, it made me ditch my PS2. When I decided to buy a Wii I did not know it was the best thing since penicilin, my objective was to play TP and WW (I skipped Gamecube sadly). This is what makes Zelda unique. No one would skip Metal Gear SOL to play the old Nes game. In Zelda you can not say the same.

OoT had the best music in the series. It made the best jump from 2d to 3d of it`s generation. The story line was deeper than any of the previous Zeldas. What I dislike about it is that most guys who say it is the best only played OoT. These people look down on WW and think TP is only a extension to OoT. It is also a little short compared to LTtP and Link`s Awakening (battlewise I mean). The only Zelda I never got into was the second nes game.

Woot. A thread about a joke has turned into a discussion about Miyamoto's masterpieces. Everything just reverts back to Miyamoto and his games.

On Topic- It is because of people like Jaffe (Edit: and, well, Reggie) that Miyamoto suggested that they may need to "super-size" the WiiBB.

Was that on topic, or a jab at the US population? You decide.

The Sony fanbots are just jealous because of the greatness of Miyamoto, I find it funny that people think Nintendo and Miyamoto should cater to their tastes when they don't buy enough Nintendo products to make it worthwhile, why should Nintendo focus on you whiners, when the casuals and Nongamers net them more cash? Nintendo is winning the market, why should they care if you don't like a game like Wii fit?