Eh, I believe I misunderstand you, as you cannot possibly mean what I think you said. Nintendo tried to hit the mass market, that was the reason they made it N64 graphics quality, and not Gamecube.

The DS would have been a lot more expensive if it was GC graphics quality (I don't know what a DS costs in the US, but I believe 120), so much that the price could have been 200-250 dollars, as the touch screen function also costs a lot.

Nintendo would've pulled a Sony if they did (albeit before Sony).

You cannot measure generations solely from power. What about PCs? Are there 10th gen PCs out now?

dib8rman: i would love to know wtf you're talking about, i dunno if you are for me or against me. (within the context of this thread)

did you not understand what i said?

I said 'at least this thread is better than the "Wii is last gen" thread. But this one is also pretty bad'. wtfrutalkingabout!?

before that i said ' i thought wii fans only lashed out at attackers'....

stop lashing for no reason!

the problem here is that certain people don't understand what a 'generation' means

they think that specs are what define them

no a generation is exactly like in real life with humans, it is an offspring.
It's not only time based but it is also slightly tech based.

For example: DS lite is not a new gen DS thick. It is an evolution.
DS lite is a new gen GBadvance.
slight improvment does not make a gen, the concept has to be different, but it also is time based.
like how nes and snes were onlyl separated by tech, there was a long gap in time between the two.

If the Wii were in 3rd place right now, there would be no argument as to what generation it should be in. Everyone would be happy to call it current-gen.

doubt that station. because people care enough to insult the ps3 about whatever.

although, @paul, it is most definitely a combination of time and power, but also change. The 32X was not thought of as next gen, but it did have next gen graphics.
Next gen being an adjective for graphics and only graphics.

"You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? When we in the media and the industry start telling you that you're wrong, you might want to listen up."


      Not really as quite a few of you in the industry and the media have nothing to base your superiority complexes upon.
And many times you folks in the media are having your pockets lined by governments, corporations, and / or special interest groups, etc, which many times make your opinions have less value than those of average joes.



"PS: The PS3 doesn't have 9 nine cores. It has SPE's that operate similar to cores but they are not indpendant enough from the PPU to be considered actual cores. They operate more like threads. Powerful threads but threads none the less.


How many cores and / or SPE's does the Wii have?


"PSS: You claimed Wii is now 5th generation because it doesn't have a hard drive "standard" unlike the Xbox and PS2. Are you just trying to get people riled up or are you missing the obvious? The PS2 doesn't have a standard hard drive, it's a peripheral that few own and even the X360 doesn't have a standard hard drive yet every Wii comes with a built in flash drive. Are you trying to tell me the X360 is 5th generation based on the lack of a standard hard drive?"

No because unlike the Wii, and as I pointed out earlier, the 360 has three processors working in tandem much like the Intel Centrino Duo in my laptop. Does the Wii make use of the same type of unified processors,.  Even though I would put the ability to have a hard drive as a lower priority than processing power in determining what gen a console falls into, all xboxes at least offer you the option to have a hard drive.   And hard drives have been standard features of pc's since the late eighties.  Does the Wii allow owners the option to have a hard drive at this moment in time?



"Now you're claiming the only thing GC did well was cell shading which automatically makes it kiddy and that the PS2 exceded the GC in everything else. Facepalm...ultimate facepalm. The PS2 is a single pass texture environment that pushed no more than 14 million fully textured and lit polygons per second at 60 fps while the GC was an multi-pass texture envirnment with an 8 texture pipeline, the TEV and could render 18 million polygons fully textured and lit per second at 60 fps."

Maybe I was wrong about that part. However, I do remember seeing charts in the past where it appeared  that the only area where the Gamecube really exceeded either the xbox or PS2 by a significant amount was in shading.

"Kid, how old are you?"
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i think it is enough to say the wii is underpowered.
i think the innovation qualifies it to be a generation on its own.
But really it is a generation after this one because of the virtual boy jk.

@theprof00

Just an observation, I'm looking at your wording not your point. I'm not saying at all that you should conform your presentations, just that it's hard for me to want to pay attention to your point if your wording emphasizes sensitivity.

But that's just me.

It's like when I see an article or thread that is marginalizing or compartmentalizing something but summates the content within a question. I just don’t bother reading the article or thread. It's just a flag or warning that says. (Stay away.)