Does everyone think Xbox 360 should start pulling there fingers out and starting paying attention to the Ps3. because at e3 07 they showed some out standing games that will be coming in a couple of months. ?  And was killzone 2 stand up more than everyone was ready for?

yes yes im a ps3 fanboy but i just wonder if its only me who thinks M$ is in some trouble now. Halo 3 will pick up sales but... honestly i got a friends group who is halo crazy im forced to play halo or i go home... does the halo 3 really look much different compared to the olders ones. AND last thing

How many more FPS can there be before sales slow down to nuthin we we some new ideas....

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I will anwser the first one: MS will take notice of the PS3 once it starts selling.

I do believe MS should take notice of the PS3, but truthfully, it's not because the PS3 is doing amazing, but because MS is suddenly realizing that their grand plan to have a year's dominating lead is about to fall to pieces because they made hardware that is going to get them sued.

Even with Sony stumbling over and over again and making their fanboys declare that every game ever released on that system as the greatest thing ever in an attempt to justify their early purchase, they'll stop stumbling eventually, and Microsoft really better make sure they don't fall down lest they be relegated out of people's minds again as the Halo Box.

Which is this month. The PS3 will outsell or come close to outselling the 360 this month (July).

Also Fuzzmosis are you implying there are no great games coming to the PS3 this year? 

Really their isn't a whole lot for MS to worry about, Sales of the PS3 are not threatening and most of the big guns for the PS3 are not coming out till 2008. So MS still has another year they can kind of slack off on.

Until the PS3 starts to pick up steam they are of no concern to MS.
And really the only way thats going to happen is if Sony drops the price of the PS3 to compete with the Xbox360 price. The average gamer doesn't care about Blu-Ray or all the extra features the PS3 has, all the care about is the games and when they see the library of the PS3 vs the Xbox360 their is very little difference they see, sure each system has their exclusives, but are those few exclusives worth the extra $200? not for the average gamer. And trust me when an average gamer goes into a store and sees the Xbox360 priced at $299 and the PS3 listed at $499 they don't care that they have to buy extra stuff for the 360 they just see those first price tags and that is what pushes them to the Xbox360. Even if they look at the Premium which is $399 that is still $100 difference and that is a lot of money for most average gamers.

MS is in a good spot they are getting a majority of the same games as the PS3 and they are cheaper. Sony's personal line-up might be popular enough among the Sony fans to justify the price, but it isn't that popular among the average. I loved the Jak series, but would I buy a PS3 for it, no. And I really did not see any games at E3 that would make me want to buy the system for $499. Once I do get a PS3 I would be willing to pick up a couple of them at Greatest hits price but none of them at new price.

As long as Sony can keep MGS4 and FFXIII exclusive to the PS3 they will start to grow. But with the small user base and MS deep pockets I wouldn't hold my breath that they will stay exclusive forever. This xmas is going to be very key for Sony to keep those games and unless they drop the 80GB PS3 to $399 they are going to lose this xmas to the 360.

Killzone 2 is no Halo3. The fanbase and pop-culture phenomena that Halo is Killzone could only wish they could tap into 10% of it. Killzone might be popular around the hardcore Sony fans but Halo is far more then just another run of the mill FPS. Halo is Huge you have a movie in the works, comic books, tabletop game, books, t-shirts, action figures. Their is a whole lot more to Halo then just another FPS. And cause of that it will sell a ton of systems. If you as any person off the street if they know what Halo is they probily will, but if you were to ask about KillZone they most likely won't. MS was very smart on how they marketed Halo and they also lucked out with being able to buy out Bungie to get the game. Bungie was always know for making Amazing games among the Mac community and MS knew that Halo could be something really huge, and as history shows it was.

I'm all for new ideas and changes to make games more fun and different, thats why I'm a big fan of the Wii.
But it seems that people like FPS the way they are. It just goes to show the old saying "if its not broken don't fix it". =/

Nope, by saying they'll stop stumbling implies that I believe there will be some very very good games coming to the PS3 this year. Also, the next year I hope.

There is the concern that the PS3 is allegedly more difficult to program for though, so there may still be that extra little wait that adds.

"I wonder if the Ps3 will come out with like a 400 hour RPG. Wait, no, probably not. Imaging telling the programmers and writers that because of the excess space, they need to write and develop 8x the normal content. Come on guys! It'll be fun, I swear!" - Me to a friend of mine, after discussing FFXIII.

 only lazy 3rd paty devs say that its hard to program. A ton of 3rd party devs arent having a single problem. Only UbiSoft and EA seem to have problems yet Activition and Midway have none. But we all know EA's quality went down the tubes since BF2. And UbiSoft had problems with the PS2 after working with it for 5 years... you tell me what that means to you....

They changed programming teams and lost their lead programmers with experience for that particular system?

I think the whole "its hard to program for" just came out because EA and UbiSoft have little faith in the PS3 in the sense that they don't think its worth their time to makes games for it cause they don't think they will make their money back like they did with the PS2.

But who really knows, I stopped caring about that long ago. Their is nothing I can do about it so why get all hung up about it. If EA and Ubisoft don't want to put effort into making PS3 games thats their choice not ours. All PS3 fans can do if they want more support form EA and Ubisoft is to buy all the games they make for the PS3, that way it shows that the PS3 user base wants the game and if they can see that they can make a profit off PS3 users they will up their support for them. As I said the whole "its hard to program for" is just a cover for not wanting to support the PS3 cause they don't think its profitable.

1) MS is paying attention to the PS3. That's why they focused so much on their current line up at E3. They realize that now is their last, best chance to bury Sony for good this generation. Come holiday '08, all 3 consoles should have decent lineups, and the PS3's price should be in a more competitive place.

2) The 360 also has an awesome lineup of games, many of which are PS3 "exclusives". While I wouldn't agree that they have the best holiday lineup ever (PS2 2001 has that IMO), Halo+GTA alone is an incredible combination.

3) The MP games like Assassin's Creed, CoD4, and GTA4 would normally be a push, but when the 360 costs substantially less, and developers are optimizing the games on the 360 hardware first, and MS is willing to pay for exclusive content, don't expect as-yet-undeclared gamers to break evenly between the two systems.

4) My wife pretty much said the same thing about the FPS - when we were watching the Sony press conference.

5) MS helped itself a lot with the 3 year warrantee. Sony shot itself in the foot with the leaked 60gig cancellation (which might not have pissed anyone off had they been upfront with it from the start).

6) Expect a MS price drop by the time Halo3 launches. Don't expect any PS3 console to be under $500.

In short, MS is worried, but they are not just standing pat.