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Forums - Sony - GC Asia 2008: Crytek Hearts PlayStation 4

HappySqurriel on 23 September 2008
MikeB said:
@ HappySqurriel

x86 processors include a lot of legacy baggage and non-crucial features, that and the Cell's innovative design is why the Cell processor is both faster in terms of potential as well as taking more effort to redesign game engines for this architecture.

The CPU isn't the only factor though, on PCs the graphics card usually has a much larger impact on games performance than a CPU upgrade.

 

With my Athlon X2 3800+ my PC can play all of the same games that have been produced for the XBox 360 and PS3 at a similar performance level; this is after developers have been working on the XBox 360 and PS3 hardware for (nearly) 4 years which means they're probably close to the maximum performace they will every get out of those systems. At the same time the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 completely destroys my CPU in every possible way and yet you believe that the Cell is (somehow) immune from Moore's law and can match its performance?

If Intel processors where that inefficient Microsoft would have never dropped support for other processors in their OS, and we would have switched to a different architecture long ago. Certainly, the x86 is inefficient and you will give up 5% to 10% of your performance because of its legacy, but when you're dealing with a processor which is being produced using a manufacturing process which (should) lead to 4 times the performance to the one the Cell in the PS3 is using that 5% to 10% is meaningless.



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selnor on 23 September 2008
MikeB said:

@ HappySqurriel

If the PC stays x86 I think a PS4 will have a CPU processing advantage over the PC, like is currently still the case with the PS3. I think both PS4 and new PCs by then will come with (faster) Blu-Ray drives, so this current PS3 technology advantage will go away.

I think the PS4 may not arrive yet by 2012, although I expect a Wii and 360 successor to become available before that. The PS4 will likely have a much easier entry on the market, launching at a cheaper entry pricing, much more mature and efficient game engines due to PS3 adaptations and will have a very mature XMB OS with Playstation Home (taking your PS3 customized Home and charaters with you onto the PS4), PS1/PS2 software emulation and full PS3 compatibility out of the box.

 

 I am not trolling this thread.

I just need to point out that when the PS3 was released there were already PC processors available that were quad core which beat the cells numbers in every category. The same will be when the next consoles arrive. PC cpu's are going a different route to the cell, and they will probably combine the GPU with CPU in 2-3years with a new tech that Intel are working on. I personally cant wait to see Intels new CPU architecture.



leo-j on 23 September 2008

Interesting.. why is cytek so interseted in the ps "4" all of a sudden?



 

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ph4nt on 23 September 2008

Whatever the next generation of consoles is, I really hope that it's none of this $400-$600 bull that we got this generation, just too much to pay for a console, $350 tops.



theprof00 on 24 September 2008

i think the specs for the ps4 are already complete. all they are doing is waiting for costs and evolutions of hardware. I think they have the ideas all in place
for instance
some kind of gigantic 50GB flash drive instead of hard drive. 50GB Flash cards for games instead of blu ray discs. (i think they will mov back to the cartridge, but a flash cart) new cell processor so on and so forth.