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vlad321 on 26 September 2008
blackstar said:
vlad321 said:
Right now people are all going on about how science can't proof why we are alive and what consciousness is. Fact it there have been some pretty good breakthroughs and I can see an explanation coming out "soon." When that happens what will the religious folk latch on to try to tell us that humans aren't just a bunch of cells which work symbiotically to survive?

 

 i understand u now :)

would u tell how this world is running? how the living creatures existed ? what made all that???

 

I believe a good amount of things have been already explained actually. World started by rocks and gasses causing enough gravity for them to collapse in on themselves. Organic creatures started off as inanimate organic molecules and went from there, and I believe as far as we know the universe goes back to the big bang with a whole slew of theories as to what happened before that.



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Tigerzfan3 on 26 September 2008

yeah even if the big bang is true how did that happen... God put it all into place



blackstar on 26 September 2008
vlad321 said:
blackstar said:
vlad321 said:
Right now people are all going on about how science can't proof why we are alive and what consciousness is. Fact it there have been some pretty good breakthroughs and I can see an explanation coming out "soon." When that happens what will the religious folk latch on to try to tell us that humans aren't just a bunch of cells which work symbiotically to survive?

 

 i understand u now :)

would u tell how this world is running? how the living creatures existed ? what made all that???

 

I believe a good amount of things have been already explained actually. World started by rocks and gasses causing enough gravity for them to collapse in on themselves. Organic creatures started off as inanimate organic molecules and went from there, and I believe as far as we know the universe goes back to the big bang with a whole slew of theories as to what happened before that.

we can't be a coincidence

this whole world can't be a coincidence, the way the planets are orginized can't be a coincidence

the way ur body live and functions can't be a "coincidence" -plz read into human physiology and u will get what i mean-

if i tell u that there was an airplane that flew all the way from africa after it took off and then landed on america with no pilot, u wouldn't believe this

how about these planets these galaxies that are orginized in a way that no one can explain , not even the big band theory



vlad321 on 26 September 2008

Well you see, something MUST be happening in any point of time. In the grand scheme of things any event that happens has an infinitesimally small probability of happening, but since something must happen it happens. If things were differently setup then I bet people would still be asking how the coincidence happened. It happened because something must happen. If there's energy there's an occurance.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

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Lem_Nx on 26 September 2008
vlad321 said:
Well you see, something MUST be happening in any point of time. In the grand scheme of things any event that happens has an infinitesimally small probability of happening, but since something must happen it happens. If things were differently setup then I bet people would still be asking how the coincidence happened. It happened because something must happen. If there's energy there's an occurance.

What if the universe were to divide itself by 0? What would be happening then >.> Hmmm.... Let me go try my caculator... let's see... OH MY SCIENCE! We're all going to die!

 



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blackstar on 26 September 2008
vlad321 said:
Well you see, something MUST be happening in any point of time. In the grand scheme of things any event that happens has an infinitesimally small probability of happening, but since something must happen it happens. If things were differently setup then I bet people would still be asking how the coincidence happened. It happened because something must happen. If there's energy there's an occurance.

 

 i don't fully understand what u wrote :s -sorry my english is not that good- but i got the idea :)

anyway , i'm muslim and i believe in god for many reasons , Quran -the book that we read as muslims- existed 1400 years ago and it says things were not discovered back than and they are proven true now by science,,

we can discuss god existenss forever , can't we?? lol



blackstar on 26 September 2008

i gtg now ,, i'm sleepy
so if u are posting now i will read it later :)
goood night everyone



Tispower1 on 26 September 2008
ManusJustus said:

There was no Adikam or Malul.  Wikipedia has a nice list of pharoahs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pharaohs , you could scavenge through to look for matches for your belief .  There was a pharoah named Pepi II who ruled Egypt for 96 years, but he had no sons named Akidam, but that was over a thousand years before biblical historians (even the religious blog you linked) and academic historians say Moses and the Hebrews settled Israel around 1200 BC.  We know from historical records (including the Armana Letters before) that the Canaanites were living Israel without Hebrew invaders or migrants to atleast 1300 BC.

The more realistic answer to the story of Moses comes from looking at other stories at that time.  Bablyonian and other cultures had "Moses' stories of their own long before the Hebrews, and the Hebrews borrowed several other stories from Babylonians such as the Epic of Gilgamesh (Great Glood) and the Enuma Elish (Creation).

Moses' birth legend is in many respects similar to the 7th century BCE Neo-Assyrian version of the birth of the king Sargon of Akkad in the 24th century BCE who, being born of modest means, was set in the Euphrates river in a basket of bulrushes and discovered by a member of the Akkadian royalty who reared him as their own. Professor Eric H. Cline refers to the story of the birth of Moses as a 'foundation myth', similar to those of Sargon, Cyrus the Great and Romulus and Remus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses

No offense or anything, but I'm not going to trust any ancient Egyptian knowledge, that's hard to work it out as it is, from Wikipedia! Plus, we know we don't have complete records, mostly complete, but it's still not the whole thing.

 



Tispower1 on 26 September 2008
vlad321 said:
Right now people are all going on about how science can't proof why we are alive and what consciousness is. Fact it there have been some pretty good breakthroughs and I can see an explanation coming out "soon." When that happens what will the religious folk latch on to try to tell us that humans aren't just a bunch of cells which work symbiotically to survive?

 

So you're trusting the stake of eternal life or eternal death, on some findings that might some out soon?

Seems a bit shoort sighted to me :)



vlad321 on 26 September 2008
Tispower1 said:
vlad321 said:
Right now people are all going on about how science can't proof why we are alive and what consciousness is. Fact it there have been some pretty good breakthroughs and I can see an explanation coming out "soon." When that happens what will the religious folk latch on to try to tell us that humans aren't just a bunch of cells which work symbiotically to survive?

 

So you're trusting the stake of eternal life or eternal death, on some findings that might some out soon?

Seems a bit shoort sighted to me :)

 

I'd like to think it's realisitc since the way I see it when you die your neurons stop sending out elecric signals and that's it. Kinda like a computer/console.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835