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ZenfoldorVGI on 21 September 2008
Cueil said:
The quick and dirty is that no game coming out the the PS3 in the US is likely to spark the kind of sales that MGS4 did. No one was looking forward to R2 as much as even R&C. It's likely that with this holiday Microsoft may be able to put enough breathing room in the US to shift more focus to Europe where they are taking a thrashing outside of the UK. As for not mentioning games They really didn't mention any games though they showed a few for each console including Home. Personally Home is worthless if it's not integrated into the console. Optional bloat software doesn't usually sit well with most people and it's not something that I think many people will get into. Of course that's my opinion... I may or may not be wrong.

 

...but Cueil, Sony fanboys think that LBP and MGS4 will move the consoles for them this Christmas. They think consumers will percieve the 360 price cut as a desperation move, and not buy the console. They also believe that only pre-existing Gears fanboys will buy Gears 2, and Fable 2 will only sell to Xbots.

What say you?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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Reasonable on 21 September 2008

Heh, don't why but the responses have got me chuckling too much to make one myself...

The tinfoil brigade must be very suspicious about Yahoo commenting on console wars though given their position at the moment...



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Cueil on 21 September 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Cueil said:
The quick and dirty is that no game coming out the the PS3 in the US is likely to spark the kind of sales that MGS4 did. No one was looking forward to R2 as much as even R&C. It's likely that with this holiday Microsoft may be able to put enough breathing room in the US to shift more focus to Europe where they are taking a thrashing outside of the UK. As for not mentioning games They really didn't mention any games though they showed a few for each console including Home. Personally Home is worthless if it's not integrated into the console. Optional bloat software doesn't usually sit well with most people and it's not something that I think many people will get into. Of course that's my opinion... I may or may not be wrong.

 

...but Cueil, Sony fanboys think that LBP and MGS4 will move the consoles for them this Christmas. They think consumers will percieve the 360 price cut as a desperation move, and not buy the console. They also believe that only pre-existing Gears fanboys will buy Gears 2, and Fable 2 will only sell to Xbots.

What say you?

 

Fable 2... One button combat... how f'n simpler can you get... plus you can bang chicks/dudes... that's def going to score the rest of the frat guys who normally wouldn't buy the system :p not to mention jump in and jump out co-op... and likely another good story.  I'm really looking forward to playing this with my gf.

Gears of War 2 is the kind of game that Halo was... it brought people into the hard core setting... Halo redefined FPSes on consoles by actually controlling well and Gears of War series brings a very hard core feeling to it, but it really isn't that hard.  The biggest thing they needed to address with GoW2 is story... My gf sat and watched me play Mass Effect and Lost Odysse, but I couldn't get her to sit and watch me play GoW... so that's what they really need to do better in order to kind of draw in more of the upper level casual gamers into the core crowd.

Bottom line is Gears is going to sell batshit crazy and Fable is going to put up at least a million if not two.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if those two games outsell Sony's big four(R2,MotoSt2,SOCOM,LBP) combined by the end of the year.

I predict that this holiday alot of PS3 owners go multiplatform and a lesser amount of Wii owners go for the 360/PS3.  I think this will be a good holiday for all three consoles no matter how things fall.

As for me I think Fable 2 is my next purchas and after that Gear of War 2... perhaps a couple of discount games to.

 



 
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Drage on 21 September 2008
Bobbuffalo said:
note to yahoo: next time don't find news in message boards

Amen.

 



megaman79 on 21 September 2008

Why would Yahoo be interested in promoting a Microsoft product?



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

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CAL4M1TY on 21 September 2008

The opening music says alot about the rest of the video.

Dammit, I was hoping for "Well as for the PS3... It's just a hunk of crap". Sounds so much better than what he actually said.

Incidently, doesn't the supply constraint of the Wii also indicate its "flying off the shelves".

Probably the only noteworthy thing the guy said in the video (and this is stretching the definition of noteworthy here) was about the PS3's price and sony's decision of either profit or marketshare, which is pretty true at the moment.



libellule on 21 September 2008

Yahoo = pro MS : confirmed.

Hope google will kill you (or eat you)

@cougarman :

""then sony makes playtation 1 (thriller time for micheal) and then comes PS2 (first plastic surgery)""

==> becuase Jackson was not ALREADY surgerycally modified in Thriller ?



Time to Work !

libellule on 21 September 2008
Cueil said:

 Fable 2... One button combat... how f'n simpler can you get... plus you can bang chicks/dudes... that's def going to score the rest of the frat guys who normally wouldn't buy the system :p not to mention jump in and jump out co-op... and likely another good story.  I'm really looking forward to playing this with my gf.

==> sorry, no, Fable2 is not casual ...
I dont know if it will sell or not, but it is not a mainstream title.

Gears of War 2 is the kind of game that Halo was... it brought people into the hard core setting... Halo redefined FPSes on consoles by actually controlling well and Gears of War series brings a very hard core feeling to it, but it really isn't that hard.  The biggest thing they needed to address with GoW2 is story... My gf sat and watched me play Mass Effect and Lost Odysse, but I couldn't get her to sit and watch me play GoW... so that's what they really need to do better in order to kind of draw in more of the upper level casual gamers into the core crowd.

==> overall, I agree.
U know, story will still suck (dont dream man)
But the game will move console and will stellar sales and review.

Bottom line is Gears is going to sell batshit crazy and Fable is going to put up at least a million if not two.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if those two games outsell Sony's big four(R2,MotoSt2,SOCOM,LBP) combined by the end of the year.

==> you think the 15M PS3 owners will not buy games ? then you are just stupid.
Even if we imagine Xbox360 outsolding the PS3 for the rest of the year, it will still allow Sony to sell games to PS3 owners.
For me, these games will sell A LOT (dont worry Gears of War2 will too)

I predict that this holiday alot of PS3 owners go multiplatform and a lesser amount of Wii owners go for the 360/PS3.  I think this will be a good holiday for all three consoles no matter how things fall.

==> no, if people there are people going multiplateform, it is the 12M Xbox360 users that will buy a PS3 to have a BR player and have access to some PS3 games.
Wii owners may want to Xbox360 or PS3, while PS3 owners will NOT go Xbox360 but may buy a Wii.

I just hope the wii will have enought supply ...

As for me I think Fable 2 is my next purchas and after that Gear of War 2... perhaps a couple of discount games to.

 

 

 



Time to Work !

Cougarman on 21 September 2008
libellule said:
Yahoo = pro MS : confirmed.

Hope google will kill you (or eat you)

@cougarman :

""then sony makes playtation 1 (thriller time for micheal) and then comes PS2 (first plastic surgery)""

==> becuase Jackson was not ALREADY surgerycally modified in Thriller ?

 

playstation 1 was surgically modiefied from the snes add-on stages too. see it all adds up, you cant dodge this one, its acurate comparison:P



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spidey_77 on 21 September 2008

Seemed true to me. I didn't feel like they were lying about SONY's position. Actually this is what most ppl think is happening outside of gaming forums.