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Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

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vizunary said:

I think this needs to be viewed differently than 60gb vs 80gb. It's actually limited production made in house by Sony, and massed produced by outsourcing. I am certain(relatively speaking) that the 80gb is cheaper to produce than the 60gb.

Don't get me wrong, I am VERY glad that my PS3 is 100% Sony made =)


You know almost all the launch PSTriples were made by Asusteck and Foxconn, right?

Last time I checked, they weren't Sony



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all. 

"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away" 

I don't really see a problem.

Theres enough 60Gb PS3s in stock for a good 5 months, by then there will be an even bigger hd PS3 then 80GB. Once the 60GB is sold out some PS3 will take its place at $499, while an even bigger bundle will take the $599 spot.

From day one the price was not the biggest problem, their inability to educate the consumer why The PS3 was is worth 500 or 600 bucks was.



There is no confirmation that after they sell out of the 60gb version of the PS3 that they will release a PS3 console without a game. Part of the criticism of the PS3 is that it didn't come with a pack in game where as the Wii did. So it is very possible that Sony may decide to only go with one sku at that point. A 80gb version with a pack-in game. This would not be a bad decision.



 

 

twingo said:
I don't really see a problem.

Theres enough 60Gb PS3s in stock for a good 5 months, by then there will be an even bigger hd PS3 then 80GB. Once the 60GB is sold out some PS3 will take its place at $499, while an even bigger bundle will take the $599 spot.

From day one the price was not the biggest problem, their inability to educate the consumer why The PS3 was is worth 500 or 600 bucks was.

Sorry Twingo, but most people would disagree with you there.  It doesn't matter whether the ps3 is worth 600$ or not, the price is the problem for sales.  Most people don't have the disposable income to buy electronics for 600$.  Note, I said most people, obviously there are those people that do.  But until the price of a product reaches the critical mass market price, no matter its actual value, it still won't see its optimal sales potential. 

We live in a wal-mart world.  Low prices mean more than quality to most consumers. 

Anyway, the longer they can hold the two SKU's, the better for Sony because they can justify selling the 80 GB version for so much, increasing their bottom line.  This neatly solves their problem with the stockpiled ps3's they produced months ago.

For example, assume they have 1.5 million 60 GB ps3's they produced at a higher cost back before march.  They've cut the cost of production per ps3 enough to almost break even, but before they can sell those new PS3's, they need to get rid of the older ones, so a price cut hits their bottom line harder than it should because those old ones are being sold at an even bigger loss.

This way, they can produce the cheaper 80 GB ps3's, sell those at the original price point (and probably breaking even or making a profit on each one), which offsets the price reduction for the older 60 GB ps3's.  Also, because the price is lower, they are increasing sales of these guys, which recovers their investment in a more timely matter.  By the time they're actually forced to sell the 80 GB ps3 for $500 bucks, they'll probably have the production costs lowered enough to keep it profitable.

edit:  Forgot to say I'm impressed with the strategy myself.  I think its a bit underhanded, but its a very good idea for Sony itself.



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Even a pack with game is not better that a 100$ price drop
In EU we have now a pack with 2 game and 2 sixaxis and I m pretty sure people would prefer a simple 100 euros price drop ...

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I think they labeled the 80Gb w/ the pack-in game limited edition so they can keep it at $600 when the deal is over. They could say it was a bundle that was to last until the holidays and now it will be sold for the regular price with no game. It's like Microsoft selling a bundle of the 360 Premium w/ a free game for $399 after the 65nm chipset is out. It's cheaper to make and we assume when the pack-in is over they will drop the price but it stays the same and they say it was just for a limited time offer.



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I just want to restate some facts that others have said and add some of my own ideas:

1. There is a $500 PS3 that most people preferred and was $600 last week.

2. That $500 60GB PS3 won't sell out any time soon, because unlike a certain other company, Sony produced a lot of consoles.

3. If they did sell out in a few months they probably would have caught up to the Wii. How would that be bad?

4. Of course Sony isn't going to say that the 80GB will drop in price. They want to sell all of the 60GB PS3 right now (which is selling very well because of the $100 price cut). They needed a sales boost and they got it. Saying that a (marginally) better PS3 will be $500 months down the road wouldn't make sense, now would it?

5. Those that do opt for the 80GB PS3 make Sony money, so that helps them.

6. Someone said that this deal is screwing over early adoptors, which of course it isn't, since anyone can upgrade their hard drive with any notebook drive or normal hard drive that would just hang out of the system (unlike the 360, which uses a proprietary connection scheme).

7. The 80GB will become the standard at some point in the future, but it might be several months. The backwards compatibility started at around 75% without the EE in Europe from what I read (I can find the source hopefully if needed), and that was in March. Since then every update has improved it and was better than Microsoft's was, especially last year.

8. Software emulation is the only way to upscale PS1/2 games, so even the original PS3s in the US will be using software emulation in the future. Hardware emulation was only put in originally so that backwards compability could be improved before they had to rely on it.

9. The 80GB PS3 will receive a price cut after the 60GBs are sold out, but that might be awhile. Even if both are around by Christmas they could both receive a price cut by then. Sony's $500 stand-alone blu-ray player will drop by then, too, because $300 players will be out by then.

10. People mention that there was no price cut after the 20GB was phased out, but that price-cut was the one that happened a few days ago. It only took a few months. I don't think there will be as long as a wait next time, but 20GB isn't a big price to pay for those that decide to get a PS3 before then. Also, it will be after September (because is 60GB sold out before the it would be amazing) when the 5 free blu-ray movie deal is up, indicating that it was a better deal for the consumer to get the 60GB before the 80GB dropped, because for the price of 5 blu-ray movies you can get close to 500GB if you want.

So, the lessons of this week and weeks past: Sony needs to tell their people to shut up and let things happen without their own execs spoiling the logical moves to follow.

Regardless of the confusion, there are some terrific deals right now for the 60GB PS3. 5 free blu-ray movies for every blu-ray player (including PS3s) until the end of september, an extra controller if you go Circuit City, an extra movie and blu-ray/DVD remote if you go Amazon, etc.

PS: 11. The special edition with motorstorm could easily include the new map pack to be sold next month, which would help the deal there. Motorstorm itself is worth $40 now, the pack will probably be less than $10, and 20GB and conveniance isn't quite worth $50 but it will still sell, and like I said, Sony wants to clear the 60GB anyway.