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naznatips on 14 July 2007

Well, I'll go with Wii.  I don't expect HSG5 to boost PS3 sales (at all actually) and there wasn't a price drop in Japan, so they can't get a boost there (the price is already almost $400 there anyway and sales still suck).  I do expect Nintendo to ship extra hardware to Japan for DQ:S though which should boost them signifficantly.  PS3 sales boosted for the first few days but don't expect them to multiply by 2X for longer than the first week.  So yeah, it will be close, but I'll give the Wii an edge.



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misterd on 14 July 2007

Nintendo doesn't have anything huge until Metroid, and the clock is ticking on the $499 Ps3, so I think the urgency favors Sony.



misterd on 14 July 2007
ssj12 said:
I vote PS3 first. Jack did say sales since the price drop doubled at 5 major retailers in the US. We all know it will have a worldwide boost because of E3. Sony had an insanely strong showing of games. Just Gran Turismo 5: Prologue's announcement will make a large amount of Japanese gamers want the PS3.

1. The questions on those sales are a) what were sales in those stores before they doubled, b)how much do those chains count toward overall sales, and c) how long does that last. 2. GTP isn't going to help sales until itis released, so it shouldn't impact this.

misterd on 14 July 2007
Darc Requiem said:
It basically come down to what will have a bigger effect on sales. The "price cut" on PS3 in the US or the release of Dragon Quest: Swords in Japan. It is definitely going to be close but I will go with the Wii. I don't see the PS3 sales spike to overcome the boost DQ:S will give the Wii in Japan.

The Wii is selling out in Japan w/out DragonQuest. I don't see how DQ can make it even more sold out.

naznatips on 14 July 2007
misterd said:
Darc Requiem said:
It basically come down to what will have a bigger effect on sales. The "price cut" on PS3 in the US or the release of Dragon Quest: Swords in Japan. It is definitely going to be close but I will go with the Wii. I don't see the PS3 sales spike to overcome the boost DQ:S will give the Wii in Japan.

 

The Wii is selling out in Japan w/out DragonQuest. I don't see how DQ can make it even more sold out.

It actually does matter because Nintendo sends extras of the systems they are producing for the holidays to countries who are getting big releases that month.  So yeah, it sells out, but it sells out of a larger stock base.



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mr-money on 14 July 2007

If we're talking sales, I'm going with Wii. If we're talking shipments, probably PS3.



misterd on 14 July 2007
naznatips said:
misterd said:
Darc Requiem said:
It basically come down to what will have a bigger effect on sales. The "price cut" on PS3 in the US or the release of Dragon Quest: Swords in Japan. It is definitely going to be close but I will go with the Wii. I don't see the PS3 sales spike to overcome the boost DQ:S will give the Wii in Japan.

 

The Wii is selling out in Japan w/out DragonQuest. I don't see how DQ can make it even more sold out.

It actually does matter because Nintendo sends extras of the systems they are producing for the holidays to countries who are getting big releases that month.  So yeah, it sells out, but it sells out of a larger stock base.


 But as I understand it, the Wii would be selling out regardless. The shift may help the sales total in one area, but that also means taking consoles away from the other 2 regions where demand still hasn't dropped below supply. 



naznatips on 14 July 2007
misterd said:
naznatips said:
misterd said:
Darc Requiem said:
It basically come down to what will have a bigger effect on sales. The "price cut" on PS3 in the US or the release of Dragon Quest: Swords in Japan. It is definitely going to be close but I will go with the Wii. I don't see the PS3 sales spike to overcome the boost DQ:S will give the Wii in Japan.

 

The Wii is selling out in Japan w/out DragonQuest. I don't see how DQ can make it even more sold out.

It actually does matter because Nintendo sends extras of the systems they are producing for the holidays to countries who are getting big releases that month. So yeah, it sells out, but it sells out of a larger stock base.


But as I understand it, the Wii would be selling out regardless. The shift may help the sales total in one area, but that also means taking consoles away from the other 2 regions where demand still hasn't dropped below supply.


No it's not a shift away from other markets, they actually ship extra units from backstocks (presumably being built up for the holidays) thus allowing Wiis to actually sell higher in some months because of shipment boosts.



misterd on 15 July 2007
naznatips said:
misterd said:
naznatips said:
misterd said:
Darc Requiem said:
It basically come down to what will have a bigger effect on sales. The "price cut" on PS3 in the US or the release of Dragon Quest: Swords in Japan. It is definitely going to be close but I will go with the Wii. I don't see the PS3 sales spike to overcome the boost DQ:S will give the Wii in Japan.

 

The Wii is selling out in Japan w/out DragonQuest. I don't see how DQ can make it even more sold out.

It actually does matter because Nintendo sends extras of the systems they are producing for the holidays to countries who are getting big releases that month. So yeah, it sells out, but it sells out of a larger stock base.


But as I understand it, the Wii would be selling out regardless. The shift may help the sales total in one area, but that also means taking consoles away from the other 2 regions where demand still hasn't dropped below supply.


No it's not a shift away from other markets, they actually ship extra units from backstocks (presumably being built up for the holidays) thus allowing Wiis to actually sell higher in some months because of shipment boosts.

 

Got it.

 Now why exactly are they stocking up for the holidays? Why would they prefer people to buy their console in November than in July?

 



NJ5 on 15 July 2007
misterd said:
naznatips said:
misterd said:
naznatips said:
misterd said:
Darc Requiem said:
It basically come down to what will have a bigger effect on sales. The "price cut" on PS3 in the US or the release of Dragon Quest: Swords in Japan. It is definitely going to be close but I will go with the Wii. I don't see the PS3 sales spike to overcome the boost DQ:S will give the Wii in Japan.

 

The Wii is selling out in Japan w/out DragonQuest. I don't see how DQ can make it even more sold out.

It actually does matter because Nintendo sends extras of the systems they are producing for the holidays to countries who are getting big releases that month. So yeah, it sells out, but it sells out of a larger stock base.


But as I understand it, the Wii would be selling out regardless. The shift may help the sales total in one area, but that also means taking consoles away from the other 2 regions where demand still hasn't dropped below supply.


No it's not a shift away from other markets, they actually ship extra units from backstocks (presumably being built up for the holidays) thus allowing Wiis to actually sell higher in some months because of shipment boosts.

 

Got it.

Now why exactly are they stocking up for the holidays? Why would they prefer people to buy their console in November than in July?

 


It has been repeated countless times, but here we go:

People are more likely to buy consoles in the holiday period, so competition between the three players has to be stronger in that period. If some dad or mum wants to buy their kid a console for Christmas and can't find it, it's possible that they will buy a different one. In the summer, it's more likely for someone to say "I'll just wait".

PS: I'm starting to think there should be a FAQ for questions like these.



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