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Forums - Microsoft - Peter Moore - "RARE is Outdated....Consumers DON'T CARE about their games!"

....says Peter Moore in interview with Guardian's games blog. Their headline refers to it as a "a damning indictment of UK developer, Rare", though it reads more like a solemn acknowledgment of changing consumer tastes, with a little regret over MS's inability to read those changing tastes.

So are Rare-styled games openly rejected by the public now, or is he just making excuses for them when the problem is the platform and its audience? Is it just impossible to create new cartoony mascot-type stuff that sells really well? It's difficult to launch franchises in just about any genre, so I'm not entirely sure it's fair to say that the lighthearted action/platformer is a losing proposition.....it's just that nobody really takes a stab at it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...ion.microsoft1

Then we went off, and I spent a lot of time in the Midlands with Rare, trying to work on stuff that would give us a little bit more balance. And so a few years ago we started working on Viva Pinata, and again we wanted to do it differently because we knew we couldn't just launch piñata at the same time as we were focusing on efficient killing. And so we did a deal with Saturday morning TV who launched a cartoon series which is still very popular to get the piñata characters up and running. So we used Viva Pinata as a broader play into the more casual market to attract younger consumers, female consumers and to take a little bit of the edge off the box.

I thought ultimately it would be very successful – and you know, Microsoft, we'd had a tough time getting Rare back – Perfect Dark Zero was a launch title and didn't do as well as Perfect Dark… but we were trying all kinds of classic Rare stuff and unfortunately I think the industry had past Rare by – it's a strong statement but what they were good at, new consumers didn't care about anymore, and it was tough because they were trying very hard - Chris and Tim Stamper were still there – to try and recreate the glory years of Rare, which is the reason Microsoft paid a lot of money for them and I spent a lot of time getting on a train to Twycross to meet them. Great people. But their skillsets were from a different time and a different place and were not applicable in today's market.

OUCH!

He has no right to say such things about the makers of Donkey Kong!!

EDIT : - By Donkey Kong....I mean DONKEY KONG COUNTRY....not the other stupid & boring arcade game!



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He's got it backwards: it's Rare that changed, not the market. Many of Rare's older games are still beloved of retro and modern gamers alike. It is when Rare abandoned these philosophies that consumers stopped caring about them.



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

Be the ultimate ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! Poisson Village welcomes new players.

What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

{sigh}

I'm not talking about that loony stupid donkey kong game
I am talking about the Donkey Kong Country....ye know the 2nd best game on the SNES ever!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

He might be right



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

RolStoppable said:
Rare didn't make Donkey Kong.

I think the topic creator is referring to the Donkey Kong Country series. Rare did in fact make those.



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

Be the ultimate ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! Poisson Village welcomes new players.

What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

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RolStoppable said:
Rare didn't make Donkey Kong.

I am offended by your reply's existence.

 



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Hmm, funny how Viva Pinata TIP outsold face breakers 3-1 on the opening week seeing how they released the same day. And Facebreakers is a new game from EA Sports under Peter Moores direction. I think He's out dated. OUCH!!!!



Duh.

Look at Banjo Nuts and bolts.

They've resorted to giving away free XBLA games, and having a uber-lower price point in order for it to sell.



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Here it is.



RolStoppable said:
darthdevidem01 said:
{sigh}

I'm not talking about that loony stupid donkey kong game
I am talking about the Donkey Kong Country....ye know the 2nd best game on the SNES ever!

I knew that you meant DKC, but I had to punish your laziness.

lol....well you made me re-edit the main post

A mission well done Rolstoppable...

 



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