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obieslut on 16 September 2008
starcraft said:
LOL MATURE said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:
I doubt it. Thinking back to all the prediction threads, 5 million seemed to be the expected minimum for the majority of MGS fans.

Now that number is in severe doubt, even with heavy bundling. And thats ignoring the very common 6-8 predictions.

Mind sharing the links to those threads?

http://vgchartz.com/forum/board.php?id=5

Feel free to trawl through for them.

You're looking for threads from May and June. You may also want to check locked threads from that time

Why did you wait months after it released? I remember tons of "Lol MGS4 bombed" comments from 360 and wii fans and everyone said "The only people who think this is lower than expected are you guys" Why don't you show us a solid link with these expectations? they couldn't do it when this game launched. We shouldn't have to scrounge up links because of your claims. that proof is on you.

This thread is flaimbait and I'm reporting you.

Report away. One glance at your first post in this thread and I suspect your report will backfire.

I try to see how things play out before suddenly jumping to conclusions over one or two week's data. Surely months on from launch is a better time to gauge a title's success than the week after it is released?

 

 

i dont consider this thread to be flaimbait. Starcraft asked a question, and gave his opinion.

 

thats why i am started to get fucked off with this site man, you are not to have an opinion on anything. You have to pretend that everything is perfect and all nice and rosey well i am sorry it sint. somethung i like someone else wont, its how you put your views across and not what you think of it which makes a topic flamebait.

example

MGS4 failed to meet expactations, hahaha lol, the game bombed. delaystation/decaystation why spen so much time on crappy graphics whe game-play is shit. gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>graphics.

 

MGS4 failed to meet expectations in my opinion. Many people defo the sony fanboys claimed that the game was going to sell 6-8 million and now the game seems like it is going to fall short of that and sell the least out of all MGS games excluding spinoffs and xbox versions. the graphics are ok/good but the game-play is kinda meh. gameplay is more important then graphics.

 

Both replies mean the same thing but are diff was of saying them, so grow up and stop reporting everyone that does not agree with you. how crap would this site get if everyone loved every game and every system and always agreed with everything you say.

 

SORRY FOR THE REALLY LONG REPLY FELLAS, HAD TO BE SAID

 



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darthdevidem01 on 16 September 2008
shanbcn said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Simulacrum said:
...Main reason for it to already make to 5m is Userbase.More or less in JapanWell Mgs 2 sold 7m without large userbase...
So I sai its because Nintendo and Xbox games.
O wait...I have to say, main reason for it is PS3.

we have breaking news here

MGS2 SOLD 7 MILLION!!!!

 

 

MGS2 sold over 1 million in Japan alone with all versions included and over 7 million WW.

its fair to only include the original PS2 versions sales....for a fair comparison.

 



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shanbcn on 16 September 2008
DMeisterJ said:
And anyone who said 6 mil for MGS4 is fucking stupid.

No title has ever sold more than that, yet you expect a system with a fraction of the userbase of the PS1/2 to do more?

 

Mgs4 will be close to 4.5 million at the end of the year. So 1.5 million in next 3 years is very posible.



DMeisterJ on 16 September 2008
starcraft said:
DMeisterJ said:
starcraft said:

Nope.  The OP is a question, not a statement or an argument.

Since you can't refer to any predictions, I'll refer to your "6-8 mil" argument as speculation (per the usual).

This entire thread represents a question, replied to with speculative opinions from others.

Much like 99.65% of the comments made on this site, all of what is in this thread is speculation, bar the sales figures that currently exist.....well below previous numbers.

Other examples of speculation can be found here.

Hold the fucking phone.

My thread is not speculation.  I asked a question about what people thought about the price drop, and it's effects.  I didn't say anything about it, speculation would have fell into the thread had I given a reason for the price drop, when what I did was ask what the reason was, and gave choices.

This is speculation though, when you said that A) Sony Moneyhatted Konami (can't be proven true or false) and, B) when you said that 5 million was the lowes that PS3 fans said it will sell.  You make two claims, yet back neither of them up.

That my friend is speculation.  My thread is based on fact. 

Don't try to change the subject from your speculation to something else.



starcraft on 16 September 2008
obieslut said:
starcraft said:
LOL MATURE said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:
I doubt it. Thinking back to all the prediction threads, 5 million seemed to be the expected minimum for the majority of MGS fans.

Now that number is in severe doubt, even with heavy bundling. And thats ignoring the very common 6-8 predictions.

Mind sharing the links to those threads?

http://vgchartz.com/forum/board.php?id=5

Feel free to trawl through for them.

You're looking for threads from May and June. You may also want to check locked threads from that time

Why did you wait months after it released? I remember tons of "Lol MGS4 bombed" comments from 360 and wii fans and everyone said "The only people who think this is lower than expected are you guys" Why don't you show us a solid link with these expectations? they couldn't do it when this game launched. We shouldn't have to scrounge up links because of your claims. that proof is on you.

This thread is flaimbait and I'm reporting you.

Report away. One glance at your first post in this thread and I suspect your report will backfire.

I try to see how things play out before suddenly jumping to conclusions over one or two week's data. Surely months on from launch is a better time to gauge a title's success than the week after it is released?

 

i dont consider this thread to be flaimbait. Starcraft asked a question, and gave his opinion.

thats why i am started to get fucked off with this site man, you are not to have an opinion on anything. You have to pretend that everything is perfect and all nice and rosey well i am sorry it sint. somethung i like someone else wont, its how you put your views across and not what you think of it which makes a topic flamebait.

example

MGS4 failed to meet expactations, hahaha lol, the game bombed. delaystation/decaystation why spen so much time on crappy graphics whe game-play is shit. gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>graphics.

MGS4 failed to meet expectations in my opinion. Many people defo the sony fanboys claimed that the game was going to sell 6-8 million and now the game seems like it is going to fall short of that and sell the least out of all MGS games excluding spinoffs and xbox versions. the graphics are ok/good but the game-play is kinda meh. gameplay is more important then graphics.

Both replies mean the same thing but are diff was of saying them, so grow up and stop reporting everyone that does not agree with you. how crap would this site get if everyone loved every game and every system and always agreed with everything you say.

SORRY FOR THE REALLY LONG REPLY FELLAS, HAD TO BE SAID

 

Wow.

 



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chenguo4 on 16 September 2008
starcraft said:
DMeisterJ said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:

 

 

 

This entire thread represents a question, replied to with speculative opinions from others.

Much like 99.65% of the comments made on this site, all of what is in this thread is speculation, bar the sales figures that currently exist.....well below previous numbers.

Other examples of speculation can be found here.

 

 

Are you gonna ignore the graph I put up? Here it is again:




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Fishytroll on 16 September 2008

starcraft got gang banged.



Auron on 16 September 2008

I think big titles often don't meet expectations. MGS4 did not and it seems will not meet expectations. Other big titles that are slated to come out Resistance 2, Fable 2 and other will not meet expectations either.



starcraft on 16 September 2008
DMeisterJ said:
starcraft said:
DMeisterJ said:
starcraft said:

Nope.  The OP is a question, not a statement or an argument.

Since you can't refer to any predictions, I'll refer to your "6-8 mil" argument as speculation (per the usual).

This entire thread represents a question, replied to with speculative opinions from others.

Much like 99.65% of the comments made on this site, all of what is in this thread is speculation, bar the sales figures that currently exist.....well below previous numbers.

Other examples of speculation can be found here.

Hold the fucking phone.

My thread is not speculation.  I asked a question about what people thought about the price drop, and it's effects.  I didn't say anything about it, speculation would have fell into the thread had I given a reason for the price drop, when what I did was ask what the reason was, and gave choices.

This is speculation though, when you said that A) Sony Moneyhatted Konami (can't be proven true or false) and, B) when you said that 5 million was the lowes that PS3 fans said it will sell.  You make two claims, yet back neither of them up.

That my friend is speculation.  My thread is based on fact. 

Don't try to change the subject from your speculation to something else.

Wait?  Your thread is a question, but then by the end of your post it is fact?

We have been over this before.  You apply your literal interpretation of the word speculation only when someone else is involved, never to your own posts.  If we really did broadly apply the principle, this site's forums would be nearly non-existant.

Also, I don't see where I said 5 million was the lowest expectation PS3 fans had........

 



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darthdevidem01 on 16 September 2008
starcraft said:
obieslut said:
starcraft said:
LOL MATURE said:
starcraft said:
Arcturus said:
starcraft said:
I doubt it. Thinking back to all the prediction threads, 5 million seemed to be the expected minimum for the majority of MGS fans.

Now that number is in severe doubt, even with heavy bundling. And thats ignoring the very common 6-8 predictions.

Mind sharing the links to those threads?

http://vgchartz.com/forum/board.php?id=5

Feel free to trawl through for them.

You're looking for threads from May and June. You may also want to check locked threads from that time

Why did you wait months after it released? I remember tons of "Lol MGS4 bombed" comments from 360 and wii fans and everyone said "The only people who think this is lower than expected are you guys" Why don't you show us a solid link with these expectations? they couldn't do it when this game launched. We shouldn't have to scrounge up links because of your claims. that proof is on you.

This thread is flaimbait and I'm reporting you.

Report away. One glance at your first post in this thread and I suspect your report will backfire.

I try to see how things play out before suddenly jumping to conclusions over one or two week's data. Surely months on from launch is a better time to gauge a title's success than the week after it is released?

 

i dont consider this thread to be flaimbait. Starcraft asked a question, and gave his opinion.

thats why i am started to get fucked off with this site man, you are not to have an opinion on anything. You have to pretend that everything is perfect and all nice and rosey well i am sorry it sint. somethung i like someone else wont, its how you put your views across and not what you think of it which makes a topic flamebait.

example

MGS4 failed to meet expactations, hahaha lol, the game bombed. delaystation/decaystation why spen so much time on crappy graphics whe game-play is shit. gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>graphics.

MGS4 failed to meet expectations in my opinion. Many people defo the sony fanboys claimed that the game was going to sell 6-8 million and now the game seems like it is going to fall short of that and sell the least out of all MGS games excluding spinoffs and xbox versions. the graphics are ok/good but the game-play is kinda meh. gameplay is more important then graphics.

Both replies mean the same thing but are diff was of saying them, so grow up and stop reporting everyone that does not agree with you. how crap would this site get if everyone loved every game and every system and always agreed with everything you say.

SORRY FOR THE REALLY LONG REPLY FELLAS, HAD TO BE SAID

 

Wow.

 

well atleast you succeeded in creating one of the fastest growing threads ever which = VG$ = coolness

 



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey