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xman said:
I can understand why MS was focused on Sony as stated it was the market leader and MS has a history of going for number one. Why they are still mostly focused on sony simple, they are going after the 3rd party developers. There are two sets of developers Nintendo and Sony/360. They make different games for the nintendo, but the Sony/360 is the same crowd if they can beat sony they get more developer support. More dev support better change of victory.

Say what you want about MS they are doing great this round and have set themselves up for a chance in console number 3 of finally coming out on top.

But they also tried buyng out Nintendo.  Microsoft = monopolist.  Not good no matter how you spin it.

 



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theRepublic said:

If you think any serious attempt to aquire Nintendo was made, then you are out of your mind.

Got any proof?  And "serious" could mean anything.  It doesn't change the FACT that Microsoft tried to aquire Nintendo.  Let's not interject things just to "prove" a point.



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Jordahn said:
theRepublic said:

If you think any serious attempt to aquire Nintendo was made, then you are out of your mind.

Got any proof?  And "serious" could mean anything.  It doesn't change the FACT that Microsoft tried to aquire Nintendo.  Let's not interject things just to "prove" a point.

This doesn't sound very serious to me.  This never even came close to happening.

How Nintendo boss silenced Steve Ballmer

Balls in the other court

Apparently Microsoft was making a bid to buy Nintendo for absolutely huge amounts of money. Vole was confident that Nintendo would take it. The Game Cube wasn't doing particularly well at the time and there was a lot of money involved. Ballmer himself showed up at the negotiations to have a quiet word.

However Yamaushi didn't like the deal, which he saw as a loss on a level similar to World War Two. He said he ranted a bit about Japanese values and identity but it went no-where. So in the end he said in Japanese "suck my yellow balls Mr Ballmer".

The translator looked embarrassed and was clearly not translating the phrase exactly, although Ballmer did smile at a sentence that included the word 'yellow' in it.

Frustrated Yamaushi stood on a chair, put his hands around his mouth and very slowly and in English said: "Hey Ballmer why don't you suck my tiny yellow balls."

He said Ballmer and team were speechless. They were as scandalised as if he had shown them a nipple at the Superbowl, he said.

It is nice to know that high powered board room meetings involving billions of dollars use the same language and methodology of a Kave piss-up. A copy of the interview can be found here but is probably illegal so you should buy a copy of the February issue of Wired.

link: http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2005/01/06/how-nintendo-boss-silenced-steve-ballmer



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Impulsivity said:
ahcheng said:
I do agree Microsoft's move, the bigger the MS grow the better the consumer gains.

   This has never been true in any industry in the history of electronics.  I cannot think of one single area from internet browsers to office software to OSes to mobile phones to.....anything else, that has been significantly improved by Microsofts contributions.  They stonewall open source ideas, force innovators out of the market to maintain monopolistic pricing and do everything they can to keep quality products from upsetting their corrupted ecosystem.

   I cannot think of any other company that is more aggressive about destroying competition and replacing superior products with inferior products as they leverage their monopoly in other areas (and the cash it brings in).  They aren't making 10s of billions in profit because Vista and Office are a good value to consumers at 400+ dollars a pop.

Hmmm a lot of Microsoft hate in that, tempered with ignorance of course.

If your second paragraph is true, I would encourage you to look into the histories of such companies as IBM, Walmart, Standard Oil, and pretty much the entire life history of a man named Andrew Carnegie.  A working knowledge of each would be beneficial anyway.  ^_^



Impulsivity said:
ahcheng said:
I do agree Microsoft's move, the bigger the MS grow the better the consumer gains.

 

   This has never been true in any industry in the history of electronics.  I cannot think of one single area from internet browsers to office software to OSes to mobile phones to.....anything else, that has been significantly improved by Microsofts contributions.  They stonewall open source ideas, force innovators out of the market to maintain monopolistic pricing and do everything they can to keep quality products from upsetting their corrupted ecosystem.

 

   I cannot think of any other company that is more aggressive about destroying competition and replacing superior products with inferior products as they leverage their monopoly in other areas (and the cash it brings in).  They aren't making 10s of billions in profit because Vista and Office are a good value to consumers at 400+ dollars a pop.

I read stuff like this and I just have to laugh. 

I too know a company that used an incredible hype machine to crush an innovative, lower priced competitor, in order to ensure it's monopolistic pricing and stranglehold on it's industry, forcing developers to cow-tow to it's no money for exclusives policy.

This same company subsequently used it's electronic device as a trojan horse to secure it's position in a media war, thus crushing a lower priced, and equally innovative competitor, again to ensure it's monopolistic pricing and stranglehold on that industry.

Now I'm sure you may try to marginalize this by saying I'm bitter about the Dreamcast or HD-DVD, but in fact I'm not, just trying to show you that if you hate MS for what it does, AND you were true to yourself, youd have to hate Sony as well for doing the exact same things...

 



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this pretty much backs up all those old posts about how ms didn't really care about selling games as much as it cared about taking down sony. or maybe i am reading into it too much?



Fei-Hung said:
MS is like the big school ground bully. Living in an eternity of greed. Their work ethic is totally wrong. they should be concentrating on making a better console and offering more value for money rather then trying to destroy the competition in whichever way they can.

If Sony ever happens to leave the market, it won't be long before MS go after Ninty. After all, the way MS operates it similar to the Highlander principles, "there can only be one".

For gamers, this is nothing but bad news. Since MS has dominated the PC market, there is nothing they have offered the customers that is actual value for money or a top end product.

They are now competing with Apple and we all know how Vista turned out to be!
The Zune maybe good, but it isn't anywhere near as good as an Ipod or a creative Zen.
MSN search is nowhere near as good as Google.
Google created Google maps, MS decided to copy, but again it failed to be as successful as Google Maps.
Sony seems to be another hit on their list and how long can Sony fend MS off?!

What will MS do if they start battling all these competitors simultaneously but with no positive results?
So far, financially, the results seem to be having spent more money to kill their competition then actually having succeeded in either of the avenues.

MS should go back to basics. To what made MS in the 1st place, that is to create and be creative. Instead of focussing on the competition, they should focus on themselves becoming a better industry.

trying to monopolise has already cost them millions of dollars in law suits. Looks like MS will never learn!

MS is a succesful company.  A company main function be it Sony, Ninetendo, or MS is to make MONEY!! They are trying to beat out their competation in multiple ways! Ms is doing just fine and making a ton of money.  You do make some good points but there are plenty of people who like the ZUne of the Ipod everyone is trying to do better than there compatation.  WHy is MS always singled out.

 

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY08/earn_rel_q4_08.mspx

Microsoft Corp. today announced revenue of $15.84 billion for the fiscal fourth quarter ended June 30, 2008, an 18% increase over the same period of the prior year. Operating income and diluted earnings per share for the quarter were $5.68 billion and $0.46, representing growth of 42% and 48%, respectively, over the same period of the prior year.

 

 

 



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xman said:
Fei-Hung said:
MS is like the big school ground bully. Living in an eternity of greed. Their work ethic is totally wrong. they should be concentrating on making a better console and offering more value for money rather then trying to destroy the competition in whichever way they can.

If Sony ever happens to leave the market, it won't be long before MS go after Ninty. After all, the way MS operates it similar to the Highlander principles, "there can only be one".

For gamers, this is nothing but bad news. Since MS has dominated the PC market, there is nothing they have offered the customers that is actual value for money or a top end product.

They are now competing with Apple and we all know how Vista turned out to be!
The Zune maybe good, but it isn't anywhere near as good as an Ipod or a creative Zen.
MSN search is nowhere near as good as Google.
Google created Google maps, MS decided to copy, but again it failed to be as successful as Google Maps.
Sony seems to be another hit on their list and how long can Sony fend MS off?!

What will MS do if they start battling all these competitors simultaneously but with no positive results?
So far, financially, the results seem to be having spent more money to kill their competition then actually having succeeded in either of the avenues.

MS should go back to basics. To what made MS in the 1st place, that is to create and be creative. Instead of focussing on the competition, they should focus on themselves becoming a better industry.

trying to monopolise has already cost them millions of dollars in law suits. Looks like MS will never learn!

MS is a succesful company.  A company main function be it Sony, Ninetendo, or MS is to make MONEY!! They are trying to beat out their competation in multiple ways! Ms is doing just fine and making a ton of money.  You do make some good points but there are plenty of people who like the ZUne of the Ipod everyone is trying to do better than there compatation.  WHy is MS always singled out.

 

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY08/earn_rel_q4_08.mspx

Microsoft Corp. today announced revenue of $15.84 billion for the fiscal fourth quarter ended June 30, 2008, an 18% increase over the same period of the prior year. Operating income and diluted earnings per share for the quarter were $5.68 billion and $0.46, representing growth of 42% and 48%, respectively, over the same period of the prior year.

 

 

 

Just for the record I am not an MS fan but people need to realzie they are a company out for themselves but all companies are even APPLE

 



PS3, WII and 360 all great systems depends on what type of console player you are.

Currently playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Fallout 3, Halo ODST and Dragon Age Origins is next game

Xbox live:mywiferocks

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You're right, but it's just this, a company must try to be profitable, and, if big enough, to be an important player or even a leader in the markets it competes in. Trying to become much more than a leader, a monopolist, and behaving up to the boundaries of legality (and sometimes out of them, MS has been sentenced several times) to reach this goal is quite different from simply competing and make profits, to be benevolent and trying not to think too bad, it looks at least paranoid. Once the real JR Ewing, interviewed, said that if he behaved like the "Dallas" fictional one, he wouldn't have been able to do business with anybody else anymore, both partners and competitors would have ganged together to kick him out of business.



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