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MrBubbles on 15 September 2008

i think mr10% is actually pro-us as well. its just harder to as open about it when you dont have the same level of control as musharraf did.



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ManusJustus on 15 September 2008
Kasz216 said:

Obama said it during the democratic primaries.  So i doubt he was trying to appeal to republicans.

If that is true then he said that a long time ago (relatively speaking), before Pakistan was pushed into the corner like they are now.



Kasz216 on 15 September 2008
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

Obama said it during the democratic primaries.  So i doubt he was trying to appeal to republicans.

If that is true then he said that a long time ago (relatively speaking), before Pakistan was pushed into the corner like they are now.

At that time it would of been even worse to invade because it would of knocked Musharraf out of power and put the anti-americans into power full force.

At the time he was angry because Bush called off an operation in Pakistan to kill Al Queda Leaders because it would hurt our relationship diplomatically.



ManusJustus on 15 September 2008
Kasz216 said:

At that time it would of been even worse to invade because it would of knocked Musharraf out of power and put the anti-americans into power full force.

At the time he was angry because Bush called off an operation in Pakistan to kill Al Queda Leaders because it would hurt our relationship diplomatically.

So attacking Pakistani territory with dictator Musharraf in power is bad, but attacking Pakistani territory with a democratic government that is overall friendly towards the United States isn't bad?



MrBubbles on 15 September 2008
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

At that time it would of been even worse to invade because it would of knocked Musharraf out of power and put the anti-americans into power full force.

At the time he was angry because Bush called off an operation in Pakistan to kill Al Queda Leaders because it would hurt our relationship diplomatically.

So attacking Pakistani territory with dictator Musharraf in power is bad, but attacking Pakistani territory with a democratic government that is overall friendly towards the United States isn't bad?

 

he says even worse...meaning it would be bad anyways.



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Kasz216 on 15 September 2008
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

At that time it would of been even worse to invade because it would of knocked Musharraf out of power and put the anti-americans into power full force.

At the time he was angry because Bush called off an operation in Pakistan to kill Al Queda Leaders because it would hurt our relationship diplomatically.

So attacking Pakistani territory with dictator Musharraf in power is bad, but attacking Pakistani territory with a democratic government that is overall friendly towards the United States isn't bad?

No.  They're both bad.

However Obama's plan would of been worse as it would of not only taken out one Pro-USA guy out, it would of put an Anti-USA guy in... where they would of likely stayed in.

Here, we've got someone who is somewhat Pro-USA... and attacking may or may not cause Anti-USA forces in.  So long as he makes the right responses to it... he might not be knocked out of power however, unlike the Dictator.


Personally I'm against both Obama's and Bush's plans though.

The only time i'm really for invading other countries without permission is when they're being beligerant towards neighbors or committing acts of genocide.  Perhaps Nuclear Weapon procurement too depending on the country. 

The Obama and Bush stances on pakistan are just two bad ideas.  One worse then the other.