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America isn't doomed, Obama still has a good change at winning the nationa election.

McCain was a good candidate in the 2000 primaries, something that several people here are too young to remember.  After McCain lost to George W. Bush because he was too indpendent, McCain changed everything about himself to better his chances of being elected in the next open election, 2008 (he couldnt run in 2004 Republican primaries against Bush).

McCain is a man that will stop at nothing to become president.  He will do and say anything for power, even if it means turning on his morals and independent thinking of the past.  You do not want somebody like that to be president.



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MrBubbles said:
obama is the antichrist...there is no way he could lose. any notion to the contrary is just silly. McCain would be make a very good president, so its just too bad he wasnt able to win the nomination in 2000....

And MrBubbles once again proves that anything that comes out of his mouth is not worth listening to.

My other favorite:

Loosely quoted, "I don't see any problem with a woman delivering a baby on an airplane."  Planes have emergency landings if someone goes into labor on the plane.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

woopdeedoo said:
heruamon said:
woopdeedoo said:
No America is not doomed and if you consider it doomed than virtually all western countries are doomed.

Althoug you guys need some serious changes in your government structurally, especially from a demographic point of view, America is not doomed.

ROFLOL...and America started western domination?  One of the greatest documented strategist once stated this, "No country has ever benefited from a protracted war," and how true indeed it's been.  We are currently mortgaging our kids' future to Chinese and other SWFs with boatloads of cash...something has to be done. 

 

 

Clearly America didnt start western domination, but it has held it up for the last 60 years, or do you think any other western country did that? wtf

Eiter way that wasn't my point.

I wanted to say that most european countries face similar difficult challenges ahead and already do now.

My point is that European countries are are stronger and resourceful than the credit is tended to be given to them.  Also, when I say doomed, I probably overstated my point a bit, but America is going to be on a decline where it will never recover it's dominance and influence of yesteryear.  The rest of the world looks at over military difficulties in Iraq and Afghanistan, then they look at over financial woes with the bedrock institutions of our power failing like crazy, then they look at the social breakdown...let me say, during Katrina, it was the msot shocking experience of seeing American suffer like that...in this most powerful and wonderful country, to see the government inability to deal with a disaster was a national blight.  Then the look at the losing of our edge in technology as our children are ranked as one of the lowest performing in the developed world...America is losing our edge, and I think we need a change with a capital "C"!

 



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MrBubbles said:
obama is the antichrist...there is no way he could lose. any notion to the contrary is just silly. McCain would be make a very good president, so its just too bad he wasnt able to win the nomination in 2000....

When Obama comes to power, how long is it supposed to be before all of God's followers get lifted up to heaven and leave the rest of us behind? I do believe it's no more than a matter of months. Hopefully you'll still be around when the Book of Revelations start passing their deadlines by.

 



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akuma587 said:
MrBubbles said:
obama is the antichrist...there is no way he could lose. any notion to the contrary is just silly. McCain would be make a very good president, so its just too bad he wasnt able to win the nomination in 2000....

And MrBubbles once again proves that anything that comes out of his mouth is not worth listening to.

My other favorite:

Loosely quoted, "I don't see any problem with a woman delivering a baby on an airplane."  Planes have emergency landings if someone goes into labor on the plane.

 

Why do you have a problem with him saying he sees no problem with a lady giving birth on a plane.  I knew somebody that was born on a plane.

 



Griffin said:

Why do you have a problem with him saying he sees no problem with a lady giving birth on a plane.  I knew somebody that was born on a plane.

 

Its all kind of out of context, but if a woman knows she is about to go into labor (her water has already burst) and then decides to get on a plane, she has made a dangerous decision for both her child and herself.  Every major airline has a policy that you have to have doctor's permission to even board the plane, which Sarah Palin didn't.  It is also their policy to make an emergency landing.

If their are any complications on a plane, you are completely screwed, because there is no suitable medical equipment, not to mention it is hard to even go to the bathroom sometimes during flight, let alone give birth to a child.

Mr Bubbles claimed that he saw no potential problems with delivering a baby on a plane.  If you have a choice to have a baby on or off a plane, I think that choice is clear, ESPECIALLY if labor has already begun.  That was just one of the many examples of dumb things Mr. Bubbles has said, so don't take it the wrong way.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Onyxmeth said:
MrBubbles said:
obama is the antichrist...there is no way he could lose. any notion to the contrary is just silly. McCain would be make a very good president, so its just too bad he wasnt able to win the nomination in 2000....

When Obama comes to power, how long is it supposed to be before all of God's followers get lifted up to heaven and leave the rest of us behind? I do believe it's no more than a matter of months. Hopefully you'll still be around when the Book of Revelations start passing their deadlines by.

 

 

Oh crap, I'm on that list to be taken to heaven.  I better get ready.



Commando said:
To the question Yes, Yes it is.

To the rest of the post. You probably make a good point and yada yada yada, but sorry I don't like coming here to talk about politics. Especially when it comes to Republicrat talk.

Why did I post. well because I had an answer to the headline.

 

It's "off topic" for a reason... Don't click if you don't want to read.



It'll take a lot more than a bad president to doom America. Here are the things that stand a shot at dooming America:

Media is treating the presidential race like a circus - just having half an ear to what is being spouted out on the TV and other major news sites, all you can tell about the presidential nominees is that one is a "hip" black muslim who wants to "change" something unspecific, and the other side is an old white guy with a female Vice Pres. Now no matter which side we vote for, we get to be groundbreaking purely for the sake of being groundbreaking. Isn't it great?

World Opinion = presidential qualifier? - Excuse me, but why the hell should any presidential candidate be touring the world during their campaign at all, not to mention before they've even secured the nomination for their own party? I don't recall any citizens of Europe Asia and Africa having any voting rights. I don't really remember hearing England ask the US if we were okay with their queen before she was coronated either. Sorry, but what the rest of the world thinks comes AFTER what the citizens think. No nominee

Victimized society and loss of responsibility - Lawyers and politics and every single policy you see anymore is entirely geared towards trying to push as much responsibility as possible onto someone else. People sue because of their own stupidity that they aren't willing to take responsibility for, and other people are forced to create policies that strip away as many of our rights as possible in order to protect themselves from being the ones stuck with that responsibility.
Minority mindset is a subgroup to this in which people find whatever they can in order to separate themselves from the majority since the only way people can have a voice is no longer through a majority, but through adding their voice to whatever specialized group has managed to garner attention as being ignored or "victimized." Instead of the majority opinion being represented, only the smaller needs are addressed, often at the expense of the majority, which in itself includes several other minorities. Since these minorities are at a disadvantage they will clamor louder for their own needs to be addressed and the cycle will continue.

Unions, minimum wage, and endless inflation - a person earns money through how much work they do. In order to make a profit on an item that is being sold, the price must cover the costs that went into making it. Minimum wage is determined by the minimum a person must make in order to be able to survive, which in turn depends on the price of basic necessities. If minimum wage goes up, then so will the cost of basic necessities which will then require a raise in what is needed to survive.
One of the largest problems that stems from this is that when minimum wage goes up, only the people at the lowest pay scale benefit from this. If someone had been working for minimum wage and got a raise to $7, and then minimum wage was raised to $7, they would now be back to working for minimum wage. Ultimately, the minimum wage is pointless; if people only worked for $.05 an hour, then companies wouldn't have to charge as much for their products in order to make a profit. This issue is further compounded by how many union contracts are written, which often have payscales for senior members(skill isn't an issue here, only seniority) set to be a multiple of minimum wage. If minimum wage increases by $.05, their pay may raise by $.25.

 

All this stuff, and a few other things on top of it are what I see dooming America. We care too much what other people think of us and we're too willing to push our responsibilities off to someone else.



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