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windbane said:
Legend11 said:

Please don't take this the wrong way but the reason they "won" is because people really weren't expecting much and were just relieved that they actually have a decent Fall lineup that compares somewhat to the Microsoft and Nintendo offerings. Before E3 it looked like Sony was going to it's slaughter this holdiay season where it was up against major franchises/big guns like Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, and Halo 3 and all it had were unproven games. It was likely a major relief when Unreal Tournament 3 was announced exclusive for the year. I'm glad though because Sony was definitely due for some good news after the year they just had.


No offense, but we already knew what the lineup would be. 20 (or so) best games for the rest of the year were posted for each system on this forum and it was determined then that the PS3 lineup stacked up well.

Infamous and echochrome were the new games, and they stand out because of it.

UT3 and Haze (confirmation) were indeed welcome good news, but after M$ and Nintendo showed just stuff we knew was coming and didn't do a great job of it (barely showed Brawl, no online for brawl, no online for MP3, only 1 "new" game, Mario Kart, which by the way was my most exciting game announcement of E3 so far because of the release date being so soon, but that's it, and finally a focus on an exercise game that could be even better with the Playstation Eye).

I think the PS3 price-drop (leaked by Circuit City), PSP redesign (better battery life, smaller, and connects to TVs!), PSP bundles, Home connectivity to cell phones and PCs, Home menu that goes straight to any game or multiplayer online mode of games (which saves menu steps therefore making it faster), new MGS4 trailer and news that tehre will be a playable demo next week, and finally...Killzone 2 actually living up to expectations which were hyped out of this world...all show that Sony took the show.

Oh, and they made fun of the Ridge Racer quote. Come on...that's worth a lot. Sony making fun of itself.


I personally think Sony and Nintendo did a great job, but I agree that Sony did a better one if for no other reason than that this is E3, a convention that's basically for hardcore gamers. How many future Wii Fitness users were watching a streaming broadcast of the Electronic Entertainment Exposition online? How many watch G4? I suspect very few, so I think Sony did a great job of catering to the E3-esque audience.

One question, though -- I didn't hear Nintendo actually announce that Brawl did not have online. Are you saying that they confirmed it has no online?



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To me they lost as they didn't convince me one second. Plus they could use a class of how to be friendly and real funny... But for the fans they we're of course the best...



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SlorgNet said:
Also, don't forget the Sony announcement that they're partnering with NCSoft, the Korean game giant. That's especially amazing when you consider the lingering antagonism between the two countries (Japan colonized and horribly plundered Korea, many moons ago, and there's still friction over this). This is important because NCSoft is one of the key players in the East Asian game market, especially China, where online gaming is growing unbelievably fast. Very sharp move.

Yep, just read about it on Kotaku and was coming back to add that.  Apparently exisisting and new IPs are being considered.  I wonder what the numbers are for Japanese gamers playing Lineage... 



scorptile said:
if u call winnoing showing lots of FMV using blueray yes they did but actual screen gameplay shots in some were down right horrible. my opinion is another e3 where sony shows tonms of videos that looks good to "convince" people they are gonna get that "great" of gra[phics then finds out it isnt true


 I'm sorry... but I have 2 problems with your post.

1. you are horrible at spelling, either that or you have a broken keyboard

2. What FMV's offa bluray are you talking about??? Everything they showed was in-game footage, using the realtime graphics engine not CGI.

 

I don't even think you saw sony's conference, if so I would like you to go into detail of what games was a good looking FMV that turned into horrible looking game shots during that conference???



Bodhesatva said:
windbane said:
Legend11 said:

Please don't take this the wrong way but the reason they "won" is because people really weren't expecting much and were just relieved that they actually have a decent Fall lineup that compares somewhat to the Microsoft and Nintendo offerings. Before E3 it looked like Sony was going to it's slaughter this holdiay season where it was up against major franchises/big guns like Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, and Halo 3 and all it had were unproven games. It was likely a major relief when Unreal Tournament 3 was announced exclusive for the year. I'm glad though because Sony was definitely due for some good news after the year they just had.


No offense, but we already knew what the lineup would be. 20 (or so) best games for the rest of the year were posted for each system on this forum and it was determined then that the PS3 lineup stacked up well.

Infamous and echochrome were the new games, and they stand out because of it.

UT3 and Haze (confirmation) were indeed welcome good news, but after M$ and Nintendo showed just stuff we knew was coming and didn't do a great job of it (barely showed Brawl, no online for brawl, no online for MP3, only 1 "new" game, Mario Kart, which by the way was my most exciting game announcement of E3 so far because of the release date being so soon, but that's it, and finally a focus on an exercise game that could be even better with the Playstation Eye).

I think the PS3 price-drop (leaked by Circuit City), PSP redesign (better battery life, smaller, and connects to TVs!), PSP bundles, Home connectivity to cell phones and PCs, Home menu that goes straight to any game or multiplayer online mode of games (which saves menu steps therefore making it faster), new MGS4 trailer and news that tehre will be a playable demo next week, and finally...Killzone 2 actually living up to expectations which were hyped out of this world...all show that Sony took the show.

Oh, and they made fun of the Ridge Racer quote. Come on...that's worth a lot. Sony making fun of itself.


I personally think Sony and Nintendo did a great job, but I agree that Sony did a better one if for no other reason than that this is E3, a convention that's basically for hardcore gamers. How many future Wii Fitness users were watching a streaming broadcast of the Electronic Entertainment Exposition online? How many watch G4? I suspect very few, so I think Sony did a great job of catering to the E3-esque audience.

One question, though -- I didn't hear Nintendo actually announce that Brawl did not have online. Are you saying that they confirmed it has no online?


Not confirmed, but it was assumed since they talked about Brawl right before pushing their online games.  They mentioned Mario Kart online but not Brawl or MP3.  Rather disappointing for most, although out of the 3 I might onl play MK.

I still don't understand what's so great about a pressure pad.  The Playstation Eye could easily do a better exercise game. 



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Bodhesatva, I do believe Masahiro Sakurai (the maker of brawl) has already stated that the game will be online.



Sony only won if you're a fan of shooters. LBP was not amazing. No new RPG's shown (Folklore is out and bombed in Japan). GT5 was only CG.

Killzone 2 looked great and MGS did as well, but I had the feeling Sony only wanted to beat Microsoft in a "maturity" contest instead of showing why all 360 (and Wii60) owners are wrong. Cause even though MS had a bad show, the games were there and people will buy Halo either way, no matter how good Killzone looks, they played Rockband live (was bad but entertaining), showed Blue Dragon. Unreal is a PC game and people won't run to the store to buy a PS3 to play NBA08. Put in the horrible peresentation skills and the best sentence of the show: "That's enough Motorstorm for a day" after 30 seconds playing it and it is clear that Sony had only 2 outstanding games to show, which may have won them the show, but I don't think they demolished MS which they could and should have.
I'm not even talking bout Wii, since they showed two instant multi-million sellers (Fit, MK).



Well I would have to say Sony was the best for me.

But I think I could really get into this Wii balance board stuff. Lets also hope Mario Kart is more like Mario Kart 64 and a whole lot less like Double Dash, which was pants.



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BengaBenga said:
Sony only won if you're a fan of shooters. LBP was not amazing. No new RPG's shown (Folklore is out and bombed in Japan). GT5 was only CG.

Killzone 2 looked great and MGS did as well, but I had the feeling Sony only wanted to beat Microsoft in a "maturity" contest instead of showing why all 360 (and Wii60) owners are wrong. Cause even though MS had a bad show, the games were there and people will buy Halo either way, no matter how good Killzone looks, they played Rockband live (was bad but entertaining), showed Blue Dragon. Unreal is a PC game and people won't run to the store to buy a PS3 to play NBA08. Put in the horrible peresentation skills and the best sentence of the show: "That's enough Motorstorm for a day" after 30 seconds playing it and it is clear that Sony had only 2 outstanding games to show, which may have won them the show, but I don't think they demolished MS which they could and should have.
I'm not even talking bout Wii, since they showed two instant multi-million sellers (Fit, MK).

 Folklore may have bombed in Japan but at least it was not a highly anticipated game- that ended up as a flop there **cough** blue dragon,eternal sonata **cough**. As for GT5... being CG or not, it really won't matter. If people (like you said) going are to buy Halo regardless of how the competition looks then the same people will buy GT, as GT has a bigger following than Halo and it also completely destroys it in sales. Unreal may be a "built-for-PC" game, but the chances of more people having the System to be able to run it better or as well as the PS3 version opposed to the install base of the PS3 is dim, especially since the PS3 version is supporting KB&M, User created mods and free online gameplay (same as the PC). Think about that.... Call of Juarez, Halo, Prey, Shadowrun and Call of Duty. All have BETTER graphics than the Xbox360 counterpart, but why did all those FPS games sell BETTER on the 360 than the PC??? b/c the console version is more affordable and the value and the price difference is not worth it to the average consumer. Fans wanted a cheaper PS3 and sleeker PSP, sony delivered. Fans wanted to see more big name exclusive games, sony delivered. Fans wanted more variety in games, sony delivered. Fans wanted to see sony try to get better 3rd party graphics and programming, Sony delivered. Fans wanted to see some new IPs, and sony delivered. and finally fans wanted to see what Killzone2 looked liked, sony delivered. I believe the only think sony coulda done better on their part was show a rumble six axis, but we all know thats coming in a matter of time. IMO, sony won this one with a clean sweep.



Out of curiousity did anyone else kind of get the feeling that yes they won but was it by enough to reach the gamers that aren't already buying their system to buy it. They also seemed to focus a lot on what is to come next year whereas both Microsoft and Nintendo seemed to have a focus more on this year and this christmas. I don't know just my own personal feelings about it and I do still believe they won just feel like they were the company that needed something like wiifit far more than Nintendo did something to get them into the publics eye to get parents to consider buying this system for their kids or for the older crowd to be convinced that they definetly needed this system and don't think they pulled that off with the home demo and killzone and MGS they just seemed like games that stuck to the market that likely bought RFoM which is fine for selling those game as they did pretty well for such a low user base system at the moment but you already probably got the people that were willing to pay the 500-600 dollar price range for games like that with resistance is all. Anyways just what seemed to be the case in my opinion.