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nitekrawler1285 said:
I think that the ps3 having been such a money sink while bad does make the ps4 more likely to dominate.

If the ps4 has two or three cells it would still be cheap and a likely candidate for most powerful console next time around.


if the ps4 has blu-ray drive it will be faster(hopefully less need for installs because of read speed) and able to read more than 2 layers. at 25 gb per layer even if they only had 4 layers that would be 100gb. I believe the maximum is 8 layers. Once again since they are already manufacturing the tech it should be cheap as well.

Of course they will probably have another DS controller with decent rumble tech and another pseye even better because Sony makes cameras and I'm sure that tech is improving as well.

Since Sony's 1st party is so big if they plan the software correctly they can really be everything for everyone. Most powerful system, tons of hardcore games (Sony America and Japan) as well as casual(Sony Europe).

I say let Microsoft get all the lead they want. Wait until the time is right and launch with a 299$ monster. I doubt if Microsoft will be able to compete. Nintendo on the other hand probably has an ace up their sleeve.


What is this? The PS3 has only made things worse for the PS4 by losing so much marketshare.

Also, when we talk about console domination, the focus should not be on the hardware - this gen should have woken everyone up from that nonsense. It's all about the software.  Sure, Sony's 1st party is huge.  However, they have not shown us if they are capable of capturing the mass market like Nintendo has.  Besides Gran Turismo and Crash Bandicoot (who's now dead), they have yet to make a game that has cracked the 4 million mark.

Sony will have an uphill battle. They will not be able to take losses like they did this gen, and they lost their lead position to Nintendo. This isn't the same Nintendo from the GC days, either - this Nintendo has been pumping out multiple 10mil+ sellers per year. That isn't something you can ignore. Microsoft probably isn't going anywhere either.



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Hm, another article from the Magical Market crowd. At least this one had the courtesy to make a passing reference to the market being re-molded in that the Wii is kicking the 360 and PS3's incrementally upgraded butts, but still. The entire article stinks of the "ignore it and it'll go away" mentality surrounding the market disruption.

News flash: it doesn't work like that. When new values are injected into a market, you either adapt to them or die out. It's happened this way in countless markets over the entire span of human civilization with no deviations. Don't be the ice cutters who got put out of a job because they thought the electric refrigerator and freezer would never catch on.



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c0rd said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
I think that the ps3 having been such a money sink while bad does make the ps4 more likely to dominate.

If the ps4 has two or three cells it would still be cheap and a likely candidate for most powerful console next time around.


if the ps4 has blu-ray drive it will be faster(hopefully less need for installs because of read speed) and able to read more than 2 layers. at 25 gb per layer even if they only had 4 layers that would be 100gb. I believe the maximum is 8 layers. Once again since they are already manufacturing the tech it should be cheap as well.

Of course they will probably have another DS controller with decent rumble tech and another pseye even better because Sony makes cameras and I'm sure that tech is improving as well.

Since Sony's 1st party is so big if they plan the software correctly they can really be everything for everyone. Most powerful system, tons of hardcore games (Sony America and Japan) as well as casual(Sony Europe).

I say let Microsoft get all the lead they want. Wait until the time is right and launch with a 299$ monster. I doubt if Microsoft will be able to compete. Nintendo on the other hand probably has an ace up their sleeve.


What is this? The PS3 has only made things worse for the PS4 by losing so much marketshare.

Also, when we talk about console domination, the focus should not be on the hardware - this gen should have woken everyone up from that nonsense. It's all about the software.  Sure, Sony's 1st party is huge.  However, they have not shown us if they are capable of capturing the mass market like Nintendo has.  Besides Gran Turismo and Crash Bandicoot (who's now dead), they have yet to make a game that has cracked the 4 million mark.

Sony will have an uphill battle. They will not be able to take losses like they did this gen, and they lost their lead position to Nintendo. This isn't the same Nintendo from the GC days, either - this Nintendo has been pumping out multiple 10mil+ sellers per year. That isn't something you can ignore. Microsoft probably isn't going anywhere either.

So nintendo lost plenty of market share over the past two generations. 

I think the first thing we should talk about is profitability of hardware in Sony's case.  They will be able to release a machine that is powerful and profitable.  That is a good position to be in. 

As far as software is concerned, you don't have to have Nintendo level sales to make money.  It's nice don't get me wrong, however if your hardware is also profitable as well as maintaining decent software sales you will be fine. 

Not to mention i still think that Sony Europe will come up with plenty of casual franchises to carry to the ps4.  The cancelling of getaway seemed to indicate to me that sony wants them to take that route and release more casual software that they are good at as opposed to mediocre core titles.  If LBP being one of Sony's big titles this year doesn't represent a change in mentality then i'm not sure what it would take for people to see.  Sackboy is after all thier new mascot.

Having a console that can market to many types of gamer doesn't seem like a bad idea to me as ps/360 software does still sell pretty well. Not to mention being a vehicle for other forms of profit such as multimedia.  I think with thier size and new vision they might be able to tread the line quite well.



PS4 will be nothing more than a storage device with very high speed bandwidth and clock speed and very high binary input and output, probably a USB port for amplification of that signal. If this trend continues the processor will be server side and the method of decrypting will be on the end user side.



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The Hunt Begins 4/20/2010 =D

It kind of reminds me when Nintendo messed up with the N64 then tried to make everything right with the Gamecube, a day late and a dollar short.



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Sony will drop BR if the trend shifts, which reverberations have been resonating through out the industry in a recurring pattern of what this new trend is, both Microsoft and Sony have their ears to the ground on this one.



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The Hunt Begins 4/20/2010 =D

I thought the ps3 was the must have next gen console?



 

 

 

 

They can beat the Wii 2 but its not specifically technology that will do it. Its how they use the technology to excite and entertain people which will define the next generation. Speculation is tiring so I'll leave it at that.

 

 



Tease.

Screw that, download only? I'd rather drive 30 minutes to Gamestop than sit their downloading Gigs and Gigs of info for hours and hours



I bet it'll be another 4 years minimum before we ever see a PS4, i'm not worried at all at this point.