21 years old only but still somehowe you managed to play all consoles? Either you are lying about your age or you are lying about playing all consoles.

I on the other hand have played all of the consoles from atari, vectrex,Nes etc I am in what you call the older concole owner and I do own one of the two HD consoles soon both.

I still think the true next gen (better graphics is not next gen) gaming experience is the Wii only and will continue to expand on this experience while the other two will contimue to  offer the traditional experience.

So I am going to do what real hardcore gamers do experience all of the gaming possibilities at hand and let the bickering of the Wii to intolerant HD fanboys like you that hate the Wii and would like to take away that experience from those who actually like it because you for some reason don´t like it.  

actually I am 23, I don't hate the Wii as much as being severely disappointed my whole post pretty much summed up that if the Wii would have came with basically motion+ from the start I would have been happy with it. And while I somewhat agree graphics don't make the gen neither do cumbersome controls and if Wii will get it right with Motion+ then i'll concede that's the next generation. 

Btw How is forming my opinion intolerant? I don't chastize any of my friends for owning a Wii in fact I trade consoles very often with friends. Iv'e played super mario, zelda, brawl, trauma center, strikers, warioland, monkeyball, metal slug(hate the shaking for grenades) and I am dying to play MP3 but have to get MP2 done. SO OBVIOUSLY I can't really hate the Wii and still play those games unless I am just some crazy sick masochist.

And last Would you like a list of consoles I owned? atari 2600,Nes,Genesis,Snes,PS,64,dreamcast,ps2,xbox.gamecube,ps3,360(till brother moved out)Wii(till returned) and before you bring up neo geo/jaguar I said main systems always the big 2/3.

See my problem was I thought I could just post how I feel about something related to the topic and the post content in the topic but I forgot coming from the main page that this would be in the Nintendo forum so whatever I have to say that isn't a glowing endorsement for Wii is considered a biased ill informed attack of which I couldn't possibly have any true opinions other then to mindlessly bash the Wii.

You are allowed to have an opinion no mutter what it is but don´t present it as fact if you don´t want to be confronted.

I still don´t belive you have experience gaming as early as atari considering your age.

The Wii´s controlls are next gen, they might not be perfect but they will get there and if you tell the truth about your gaming experiences then you would know that back then the controllers weren´t perfect either.

To expect perfect controlls even though it hasn´t been done on this level before is just asking to much things can only progress one step at the time.

There are numerous factors that determine the generation winner and one of them is best library of games not the amount of games the console has

ps1 had a infinitely better library of games then the n64 despite n64 having 2 of the best games ever made, but they were to few as the ps1 library didn't have a mario 64 or zelda it had dozens of games that came close to them, and that is what's important, a large amount of quality games is one of the most important factors for a consoles success not quantity

ps2 had the same thing going for it, a huge list of great games that appealed to everyone something the competition didn't have

so far from the games announced for 09 wii doesnt seem to have that great of a line up for next year i meen its good but not at the level this topic is making it out to be of course some of the higher profile games probably are still to be announced for next year so that situation may change but for now nothing more then an ok lineup for 09