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Wii panders to casuals, Nintendo knows that their bread and butter has always been first parties, and they marketed last gen hardware with motion controls. Before the Wii was released I told everyone that the Wii would dominate this generation and it would usher innovation and new enterprises. I bought the Wii and returned it one week later because it wasn't what Nintendo advertised to me, however to all the casual players and parents who expected and demanded less it was perfect.

Of all my gamer friends the only non first party Nintendo game that I know any of them have is Trauma Center. All the parents and casuals I have seen buy it only have Wii sports and perhaps another sports game or one of the good first party titles. Everyone of them I know hardly uses them except for busting out brawl.

If the motion+ is used correctly and sensibly in 09 then I will Purchase and keep the Wii. I have been a gamer since atari 2600 and the Wii currently does not satiate my gamer appetite especially considering I have had every main console every generation(except saturn) and gaming PCs along the way.

To be brutally honest the people touting the Wii as the best this gen has to offer and denouncing the HD consoles/pc gaming are young ones. It's no suprise that almost all the HD consoles owners are older almost always of legal age while Wii fans are younger still in junior high/beginning highschool and It really does explain why the Wii sells so well.

Tl;dr I'll get and keep a Wii in 09 if motion+ delivers on what the Wii promised at launch.

I'll hold my reservations about 2009 for the Wii until we start seeing great (85%+) new IP's from 3rd parties because right now, alot of it is just Nintendo fan (not fanboy) hype i.e Madworld and Conduit.

Until they actually land and produce the goods, I wouldn't go calling them the greatest thing since sliced bread.

But to be positive, I have high hopes for that Tales game.

Also, is Factor 5 actually confirmed to be doing Kid Icarus or is that wishful thinking on the part of the author?

Wii is the best and will stay the best of its generation!!!!!
GOt awsome games and everything else is also awsome!!!!!!!

but xbox 360 and ps3 are also great but wii is for me!!!!

You know what, I concede.The Wii is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!

21 years old only but still somehowe you managed to play all consoles? Either you are lying about your age or you are lying about playing all consoles.

I on the other hand have played all of the consoles from atari, vectrex,Nes etc I am in what you call the older concole owner and I do own one of the two HD consoles soon both.

I still think the true next gen (better graphics is not next gen) gaming experience is the Wii only and will continue to expand on this experience while the other two will contimue to  offer the traditional experience.

So I am going to do what real hardcore gamers do experience all of the gaming possibilities at hand and let the bickering of the Wii to intolerant HD fanboys like you that hate the Wii and would like to take away that experience from those who actually like it because you for some reason don´t like it.  

Sorry but your post is full of assumptions based on some personal experiences and has little to do with truth. You saying young people are touting wii to be the best? Well i would recommend going trough profiles of Wii owners on this website, and there are as many wii owners aged 18+ as the PS360 owners, i think the loudest fanboys this generation are the young and extremely enthusiastic HD consoles fans,claiming their console supremacy over the other HD console, and trying to prove to everyone that Wii is a kiddy console for casualz and soccer moms.

Let's Continue, you think people are buying wii for Wii sports only ? That's weird because Wii sells more software at the moment then the HD twins, and there are many great games coming soon, it that was the case then hardly there would be need for releasing new titles. Do you think that 32 milion people that purchased the Wii are only "casuals" , and their wii's collect dust, right dream on.

To be brutally honest your post has nothing to do with reality, it's just usual biased critisism that Wii gets from people that dislike it.

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Well if you are claming that my post is mostly nothing then anedoctal evidence I suggest you reread yours.

Second I mentioned Nintendo's main strength was their first parties(just look at sales) I never said people only buy it for wii sports, I was producing from experience,

And explain to me how it's bias when I have been a nintendo owner since their first console, I even bought a Wii and then formed my own opinion about it. So disliking something you like is bias? Can you really deny that Nintendo's success this generation doesn't have any part to do with their approach to a wide range of demographics?, Or the fact that all nintendo advertised thier first half year was just Wii sports with different age groups? It's ok you are right I am biased because I have enjoyed nintendo all these years bought their product, and came up with an opinion different then yours.

actually I am 23, I don't hate the Wii as much as being severely disappointed my whole post pretty much summed up that if the Wii would have came with basically motion+ from the start I would have been happy with it. And while I somewhat agree graphics don't make the gen neither do cumbersome controls and if Wii will get it right with Motion+ then i'll concede that's the next generation. 

Btw How is forming my opinion intolerant? I don't chastize any of my friends for owning a Wii in fact I trade consoles very often with friends. Iv'e played super mario, zelda, brawl, trauma center, strikers, warioland, monkeyball, metal slug(hate the shaking for grenades) and I am dying to play MP3 but have to get MP2 done. SO OBVIOUSLY I can't really hate the Wii and still play those games unless I am just some crazy sick masochist.

And last Would you like a list of consoles I owned? atari 2600,Nes,Genesis,Snes,PS,64,dreamcast,ps2,xbox.gamecube,ps3,360(till brother moved out)Wii(till returned) and before you bring up neo geo/jaguar I said main systems always the big 2/3.

See my problem was I thought I could just post how I feel about something related to the topic and the post content in the topic but I forgot coming from the main page that this would be in the Nintendo forum so whatever I have to say that isn't a glowing endorsement for Wii is considered a biased ill informed attack of which I couldn't possibly have any true opinions other then to mindlessly bash the Wii.