| Kasz216 said: To me it's the opposite. Obama is the one being condescending. His position is that we aren't out of Iraq because Iraq is procrastinating because we don't have a pull out date. It wasn't condescending the Iraqi security forces either. They just weren't ready becaush Bush stupidly disbanded the army. They tried many times to hand over stuff to the security forces but it didn't work because they had to train these people longer then they expected. They failed constantly at what they were supposed to do... and why not they were fighting people who had been in the army for a long time. I saw a fun documentry on that once about an Iraqi guy who goes around asking people why the US invaded Iraq. It was pretty biased but even he admitted most Iraqis thought the US invasion would be a good thing. It's funny to see some people who have no clue why they invaded though, some people have some silly answers. It's just Bush's idocy in only protecting things that were important to US interests during the invasion is what screwed everything up and made the Iraqi's standard of living decrease instead of increase. Had there been a better person in control the Rumsfeld Iraq would of been in great shape... and the whole "Greeted as liberators" thing would of lasted more then the week or so it lasted.
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I definitely agree that the Bush Administration's lack of foresight is the main reason why Iraq turned into such a mess. It is pretty much unquestionable that it could have been handled much better.
I would have to look into it more to see what the Iraqis' attitudes were about the invasion before and afterwards. I do know that the loss of civilian life has been pretty massive, and a lot of Iraqis have been displaced or have just plain left the country.
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