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Cactus on 09 September 2008
axumblade said:
Kane said:
axumblade said:
Kane said:

how you mean that it doesn't proof anything, it proves it is selling better then Lair while Lair costed more to make So better sales, less costs means smaller flop

What are you basing this off of? Your own feelings. That's what I was talking about before you randomly started spouting off the total copies that have been sold mumbo jumbo.

Back to the sales, Ps3 tends to do well in Europe therefore the sales are actually crucial for being able to determine whether it will sell more then Too Human.

 

nice BULLCRAP it just that i'm too lazy :-]

Or you cannot find a link to actually prove your statement therefore you blame it on your own laziness. Also, a game 10 years in production that was cancelled for for the Gamecube, and the Playstation, And then made and scrapped for the 360 from 2006 I believe. I am too "lazy" to reread this article for myself would definitely merit a high price tag.

http://www.ripten.com/2008/08/17/the-life-and-times-of-too-human/

http://kotaku.com/5041732/oh-so-too-human-didnt-take-ten-years-to-make

Who to believe...Dyack or...

 

EDIT: And just for the record, I'm not denying that this game flopped, it most certainly did, but saying it's the biggest flop in gaming history with unproven sources is my problem.



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coolestguyever on 09 September 2008
Cactus said:

megaman2, I've grown to admire your threads. They are unbiased and thought-provoking. You are truly a valued member to this forum, as you are a prime example of someone who is against intolerable acts such as cherry picking, flamebait threads, and the flaunting of unfounded personal bias.

I commend you sir.

 

 whoa ho ho you got yourself a fan megaman. (that rhymes by the way)

 

Back on topic, it was a huge flop. In terms of money, and so far in terms of sales.



Kane on 09 September 2008
coolestguyever said:
Cactus said:

megaman2, I've grown to admire your threads. They are unbiased and thought-provoking. You are truly a valued member to this forum, as you are a prime example of someone who is against intolerable acts such as cherry picking, flamebait threads, and the flaunting of unfounded personal bias.

I commend you sir.

 

 whoa ho ho you got yourself a fan megaman. (that rhymes by the way)

 

Back on topic, it was a huge flop. In terms of money, and so far in terms of sales.


But not the biggest!!!!!!!

coolestguyever on 09 September 2008
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Kane said:
axumblade said:
Kane said:

how you mean that it doesn't proof anything, it proves it is selling better then Lair while Lair costed more to make So better sales, less costs means smaller flop

What are you basing this off of? Your own feelings. That's what I was talking about before you randomly started spouting off the total copies that have been sold mumbo jumbo.

Back to the sales, Ps3 tends to do well in Europe therefore the sales are actually crucial for being able to determine whether it will sell more then Too Human.

 

nice BULLCRAP it just that i'm too lazy :-]

Or you cannot find a link to actually prove your statement therefore you blame it on your own laziness. Also, a game 10 years in production that was cancelled for for the Gamecube, and the Playstation, And then made and scrapped for the 360 from 2006 I believe. I am too "lazy" to reread this article for myself would definitely merit a high price tag.

http://www.ripten.com/2008/08/17/the-life-and-times-of-too-human/

http://kotaku.com/5041732/oh-so-too-human-didnt-take-ten-years-to-make

Who to believe...Dyack or...

 

EDIT: And just fof the record, I'm not denying that this game flopped, it most certainly did, but saying it's the biggest flop in gaming history with unproven sources is my problem.

 

 hahaha it took 10 years to make! thats pathetic. I didnt realize it was planned for the PS1



Yakuzaice on 09 September 2008
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Kane said:
axumblade said:
Kane said:

how you mean that it doesn't proof anything, it proves it is selling better then Lair while Lair costed more to make So better sales, less costs means smaller flop

What are you basing this off of? Your own feelings. That's what I was talking about before you randomly started spouting off the total copies that have been sold mumbo jumbo.

Back to the sales, Ps3 tends to do well in Europe therefore the sales are actually crucial for being able to determine whether it will sell more then Too Human.

 

nice BULLCRAP it just that i'm too lazy :-]

Or you cannot find a link to actually prove your statement therefore you blame it on your own laziness. Also, a game 10 years in production that was cancelled for for the Gamecube, and the Playstation, And then made and scrapped for the 360 from 2006 I believe. I am too "lazy" to reread this article for myself would definitely merit a high price tag.

http://www.ripten.com/2008/08/17/the-life-and-times-of-too-human/

http://kotaku.com/5041732/oh-so-too-human-didnt-take-ten-years-to-make

Who to believe...Dyack or...

Well I for one wouldn't put much stock in what Dyack says.  So the current Too Human took over four years to make.  That would still be quite an expensive game.  That is not even counting the costs of making the PS1 and GC builds.  It isn't like the programmers weren't paid prior to 2004.

In the time between 1996 and 2008 they have only had two games.  Eternal Darkness and The Twin Snakes.  So we know the time after TTT was spent developing Too Human for the 360.  But what were they doing in the nearly six years between Legacy of Kain and Eternal Darkness.  Unless ED actually took six years, we have to assume a good chunk of that time was spent developing Too Human.  At least the PS1 version, the GC version seems like it may have coincided with ED, and taken a back seat to their other games.  According to this interview they have 185 employees.  That is a lot of people to pay, and that isn't even factoring in other costs.



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Griffin on 09 September 2008
coolestguyever said:
Cactus said:
axumblade said:
Kane said:
axumblade said:
Kane said:

how you mean that it doesn't proof anything, it proves it is selling better then Lair while Lair costed more to make So better sales, less costs means smaller flop

What are you basing this off of? Your own feelings. That's what I was talking about before you randomly started spouting off the total copies that have been sold mumbo jumbo.

Back to the sales, Ps3 tends to do well in Europe therefore the sales are actually crucial for being able to determine whether it will sell more then Too Human.

 

nice BULLCRAP it just that i'm too lazy :-]

Or you cannot find a link to actually prove your statement therefore you blame it on your own laziness. Also, a game 10 years in production that was cancelled for for the Gamecube, and the Playstation, And then made and scrapped for the 360 from 2006 I believe. I am too "lazy" to reread this article for myself would definitely merit a high price tag.

http://www.ripten.com/2008/08/17/the-life-and-times-of-too-human/

http://kotaku.com/5041732/oh-so-too-human-didnt-take-ten-years-to-make

Who to believe...Dyack or...

 

EDIT: And just fof the record, I'm not denying that this game flopped, it most certainly did, but saying it's the biggest flop in gaming history with unproven sources is my problem.

 

 hahaha it took 10 years to make! thats pathetic. I didnt realize it was planned for the PS1

There was a video of the PS1 game floating around a couple weeks ago too, so we know they had a workable version way back then which makes it really bad.

 



TruckOSaurus on 09 September 2008

I nominate Warcraft Adventures and Starcraft Ghost. We don't know much about the development costs but we do know how much they brought in: $0.



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gebx on 09 September 2008
axumblade said:
Kane said:
Does Lair ring a bell? I think it does....

LAIRRRRRRRR LAIRRRRR

Megaman guy actually has a link to his claim. Where is the link to yours? Otherwise, I'm calling bullshit. Just because a game is bad doesn't mean that it is the biggest flop of all times. Also, they fixed the controls via patch this year. So it's nowhere near as bad as it was.

I'm starting to doubt the proclamation someone made in another thread is completely false due to the fact that instead of instantly going for saying Haze, you went for Lair (which was so last years joke game of the year for the ps3).

Killergran said:
Isn't E.T considered to be the biggest flop ever?
I mean, burying 2-3 million copies of the game in the desert because it's too expensive to have them in stock seems pretty unbeatable to me. Not to mention that it signaled the big crash...

A flop is normally based on sales. Unfortunately, people spent money to buy and destroy those games as well as the Shaq-Fu games. It is however considered the worst game in existance.


OT- Too Human definitely could be called the biggest flop of all time according to the list. All of the other games (besides Shenmue) have sold millions of copies or aren't out yet. I could see A.P.B. being a flop though because I've never heard of it before...but it might still sell more then Too Human

 

 His claim is a "rumour" as stated in is post.. but I forget how PS3 fanboy's take rumours as facts...

 



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Ail on 09 September 2008

Daikatana was a much bigger flop....



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !