

Burgles said:
Uhhh....The GPU market hasn't been competetive for the last 2.5 years, its only the last 2 months that it has become competetive again. |
Yes, but at least we know that ATI/Nvidia can always come up with something to beat the other one. AMD has zero hope. Zero.
I've just read the article....
This is complete bullshit, this CPU they are making isn't designed to compete with any current offerings from Intel on the x86 front , its just so that they CAN run x86 code if they need to at a reasonable speed...
Don't go thinking this will have ANY effect AT ALL on the CPU market as far as you and me are concerned!
@ssj: Now that you think it a bit further, you'll notice that it's all the western companies, that are driving China forward. Cheap workforce, high profit margin, you just gotta love capitalism.
Although, you are correct, China growing isn't a problem, but China growing too fast is. Putting out cheap ripoffs, isn't a threat, but putting out cheap well thought products is, like they are doing with the car industry. When the chinese cars did a limbo in crash tests, the chinese government banned their export until the cars can perform equally to competition.
Ei Kiinasti.
Eikä Japanisti.
Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.
Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.
| Burgles said: I've just read the article.... This is complete bullshit, this CPU they are making isn't designed to compete with any current offerings from Intel on the x86 front , its just so that they CAN run x86 code if they need to at a reasonable speed... Don't go thinking this will have ANY effect AT ALL on the CPU market as far as you and me are concerned! |
It's taken Intel from 1978 to now to make the chips it has. If China can get this far in only a few years and have almost as good compatibility and potentially better native speed than think what it could do next. It's only a short step to full compatibility.
All of that is beside the point, as China WILL make their processor successful in China. This will cause most applications to also be ported to that architecture, or they will lose 1,000,000,000+ potential customers. End result: you have a global market for that architecture. Also, architecture isn't that important when anyone can take your source code and port it themselves, which is why it will mainly support open-source software first. This will cause open-source software to become more successful against Microsoft, Adobe, etc. and then we won't need to care what architecture a chip is, just how fast it is.
Soleron said:
It's taken Intel from 1978 to now to make the chips it has. If China can get this far in only a few years and have almost as good compatibility and potentially better native speed than think what it could do next. It's only a short step to full compatibility. All of that is beside the point, as China WILL make their processor successful in China. This will cause most applications to also be ported to that architecture, or they will lose 1,000,000,000+ potential customers. End result: you have a global market for that architecture. Also, architecture isn't that important when anyone can take your source code and port it themselves, which is why it will mainly support open-source software first. This will cause open-source software to become more successful against Microsoft, Adobe, etc. and then we won't need to care what architecture a chip is, just how fast it is. |
You have no understanding of the "architecture" though. This architechture isn't necassarily appropriate for desktop stuff. It almost certainly isn't, its just got some bolted on instructions to make it compatible with x86 code...This means nothing in reality.
It certainly doesn't mean its going to be as powerful as anything recent (last 5 years or so).
Add into that, the article is obviously sensationalising, and even then its not really saying that much. This just reminds of one of those news stories...."Scientists have discovered xxx that could help cure cancer..."
Will it? Will it fuck!
Do china even respect copyright from Adobe etc? Surely they would be developing their own image editing programs etc if they did, by the reasoning of the creation of this cpu?
Your argument is riddled with holes, I haven't got the time to decimate it into mushy pulp, but I can promise you your defo barking up the wrong tree. No offense :)
FTR, do you remember the "competitor" to DVD that China created? Its still going in China but we never got wind of it? Why? American companies don't want anything to do with china if they can help it....there's so much politics and what not behind all this is doesn't bare thinking about other than "it won't happen".
Theres also the thing that there are only a few companies with an X86 license. Anyone else can go and F&*( themselves for all Intel is going to let them in on the game.
So the chances they could make an X86 CPU and market it are very slim.
Tease.
| ssj12 said: frankly I agree with you on the competitive level of the CPU market Soleron but I refuse to support technologies from China that are complete ripoffs and can shovel into the rest of the market for pennies on the dollar. In the tech world China could destroy the tech industry like they have most of the industries in the USA and the rest of the world. |
Holy uninformed opinion batman!
Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?
ssj12 said: Player specific decoders are nothing more than specialized GPUs. Gran Turismo is the trust driving simulator of them all.
"Why do they call it the xbox 360? Because when you see it, you'll turn 360 degrees and walk away"
Soleron said:
It's taken Intel from 1978 to now to make the chips it has. If China can get this far in only a few years and have almost as good compatibility and potentially better native speed than think what it could do next. It's only a short step to full compatibility. All of that is beside the point, as China WILL make their processor successful in China. This will cause most applications to also be ported to that architecture, or they will lose 1,000,000,000+ potential customers. End result: you have a global market for that architecture. Also, architecture isn't that important when anyone can take your source code and port it themselves, which is why it will mainly support open-source software first. This will cause open-source software to become more successful against Microsoft, Adobe, etc. and then we won't need to care what architecture a chip is, just how fast it is. |
Why would people want to release software into a place where noone pays for it anyway and the local software talent is geared up to ripping your designs off.
Tease.