Given they´re finally making profits, managed to really put variety in the 360´s library of games and will surely surpass the original Xbox´s install base (though by how many units is anyone´s guess).

Given all that, do you already consider the Xbox brand a successful one?

if x360 > xbox then yes.

you can look at it both ways.

xbox 360> xbox; yes

xbox brand going from second (last gen) to third; no

Yeah, the have two of most popular franchises in todays market exclusive to their console: Halo and Gears of War.

because of xbox live, it is still the best online service, at least until home comes out.

if they have made more money from this gen then they did last then yes

"you can look at it both ways.

xbox 360> xbox; yes

xbox brand going from second (last gen) to third; no"

to flip this i cant think of a single way to spin sony as being successful with the ps3

what does my post or this thread have to do with sony?

It depends--if somehow Sony beats the hell out of them (which I don't believe will happen), or if they have an overall loss (not taking into account the RRoD losses) then probably not. However, they're on the path to long-term profitability, the brand is generally well-liked (or at least respected, like in Europe), they will obviously beat the original Xbox and the Gamecube by quite a bit, and third parties are doing fantastic on it.

So yes, definitely.

Yes, they have been successful. My guess is if they can really make a strong box next gen, and make it reliable, Sony will have a hard time competing.

Of course. In fact, they only thin they really did wrong this gen was RRoD. Everything else was minor at best.

And they are expected to about double the life time sales of the 360 from the Xbox. I'd say its quite a success. Plus, they also said that they will start becoming profitable, this year and onward.