I didn't say Too Human wasn't hyped, it was. But the hype definately was nowhere near the likes of Haze. Haze was hyped in a similar way to LBP is being hyped now.

It was always mentioned in posts as reasons to own a PS3 like Killzone 2 is now (Have you read any of Leo-J's posts, I'm taling about that sort of thing).

Too Human was quietly hyped in the background, but the hype was generated more from its ridiculous time in development and the falling out between SK and Epic, as opposed to millions of stupid fanboy PS3 owners. People like Leo-J. Now that might be considered a personal insult. But it is actually true, so it is not an insult. Checkout Leo-J's post history and look at anything where mentions Killzone 2...

THAT is how Haze was hyped...

Too Human didn't have ANYONE hyping the game in that way, we were all looking forward to it, but there were doubts in peoples mind about its quality from the beginning...When the previews and negativity started appearing the hype that was hardly there to start with had gone completely.

My take on things, I'm not a blind fanboy, I'm a human being with memory.

Lol.  Go and check the pre-order threads.  They were FLOODED with Sony fans saying it was complete crap.  I remember some Xbox fans hoping it was true, but dont recall anyone actually passionately arguing for the news' validity.

Well, seems like the Sony fans that "flooded" the thread were correct, eh?

No, I don't recall anyone passionately arguing for the news' validity either, but no 360 fans were shooting it down.  I guess it was good to play it safe, as we all knew the game woudl flop.  Good for 360 owners not to get worked up over the pre-orders so if they were true, or not, they wouldn't get called out...

I'm pretty sure loss generated by Too Human will be much, much severe than loss of Haze and Lair combined... Actually Haze has a good chance to break even IMO. Even if we consider current lower price point. It was pretty intimate project after all. Small studio etc.

@ burgles

Using Leo-j as a source?

fail.

For the future, I'll use Selnor as a source for Too Human. Guess what he said? 500k first day, 1.5 mil first week and 4 million lifetime.

So now where are we?

As someone who has played the game, I can tell you it is not complete and utter crap.  Certainly not the best game I've ever played, but if they fix the camera issues and mix it up a little the second game will find itself twenty points higher on Metacritic.

So your logic is that Xbox 360 fans didn't hype Too Human, but they only didn't in CASE it flopped.  Therefore, they were all hyping it secretely in their minds, and therefore the game is comparable hypewise to the real and expressed hype received by Haze after it was announced PS3 exclusive?

Nice try Mr craft.

No, I'm saying that 360 fanboys didn't hype the 1 million pre-orders because they either A) knew it was B.S. or B) didn't want to be proven wrong when it was proven B.S.

They hype about the game was there, but not about the pre-orders, guess they learned that after the lackluster previews not to believe that.

And I also played Too Human, pretty good, and right in line with a 7 or so.

The "hype" on Too Human was near 0 if you took out interviews... virtually no one was excited about this game in the press. I personally love the game, but I don't know anything about Haze. The controls on it were so much smoother than button mashers and I think that many games like it could do with adopting them.

Haze was not hyped that much at all, it stopped getting hype back in January

Too Human also stopped getting hype after the big delay back when the release was supposed to be Fall 2007