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nope, not with the AAA PC games out. Spore, Crysis Warhead, WoW:WotLK, etc.

So console kiddies, if you question why a game like Spore is AAA when it gets 8's you have to realize that PC reviews are perfectionist dicks. Console reviews are people who overlook a minor glitch as something that doesnt effect the score. Basically your comparing the school bully to the school nerd.



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Not all of your 80 games are going to have that kind of break even point. I think it would be fair to say that most, if not all, the Wii releases will have much lower development costs.



what makes me mad is that the wii will continue to dominate, and it has no games coming out. plus, its games drought is in the midst of the monster lineup of ps3 and 360.



 

 

 

 

Erik Aston said:
You have it backwards with your comments about EA, Squilliam. EA are ALREADY really hurting. They're pulling in record revenue and still taking losses. They don't need all those games to bomb to feel the hurt, they need them all to be huge successes to stop feeling the hurt. Though if any one game could float their boat this holiday, it will be Spore.

It's also ironic that you cite the fact that there's only a handful of mega-publishers as evidence of it being a low-risk industry. If it was low-risk, why do you need to be massive conglomorate just to exist?

We'll find out how bad things are not with sales numbers in the last 2 months of the year, but with financial reports early next year. The sales numbers will look fine, I'm sure. COD5, RB2, GHIV, Gears2, Resist.2, etc., will all sell very well, and there could be big break-out hits like A's Creed last year. Of course the HD developers will still be "alive." But if next year, HD-focused companies report record revenues on those huge games, but barely profit even in the holiday quarter, and big mergers keep coming left and right, that isn't a pretty picture.

I actually have data from the 1st quarter this year which supports my point of view. Furthermore the fact there are a few publishers supports the theory that its a high risk industry and the 20% ROI I indicated is typical for such an industry.

So lets see, costs are down - sales are up... Signs of an improving outlook? Yes.

 



Tease.

ssj12 said:
nope, not with the AAA PC games out. Spore, Crysis Warhead, WoW:WotLK, etc.

So console kiddies, if you question why a game like Spore is AAA when it gets 8's you have to realize that PC reviews are perfectionist dicks. Console reviews are people who overlook a minor glitch as something that doesnt effect the score. Basically your comparing the school bully to the school nerd.

 

Oh, you are one of those. Sorry to wake you up from your dream but the pc loss the retail game war for good back in the NES era. I know, I know it's a shock, one you won't admit I am sure (if it didn't happen in the last what, 15 years? It wont happen now). The same way you ignore the pc developer exile to console.

Go back to sleep where the pc nerd dominate the world, where he can feel superior because he know how to build a pc with his eye close, because he has the time to waste day waiting for a patch for a game to be actually playable, because he doesn't have any other expense than rebuilding is "rig"(WTH with the name?) every 6 month.

Screw all the other who just want to have fun instead of being the coolest nerd (an oxymoron if I ever hear one) on an internet forum.

Man that almost as sad as the music snob, and the movie buff camp *sigh*



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Someone is going to suffer. The 360 and PS3 have left some pretty big franchises for this holiday season. Theres just not enough market for every game to achieve 1 million sales (or more).

I think this will backfire on one game- motorstorm 2.

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colonelstubbs said:
Someone is going to suffer. The 360 and PS3 have left some pretty big franchises for this holiday season. Theres just not enough market for every game to achieve 1 million sales (or more).

I think this will backfire on one game- motorstorm 2.

You heard it here first

even though I have a bet that RFOM 2 will be bigger (Avatar control) I still have to disagree with you there.

 

 



Tease.

HD Penetration going up - check

PS360 sales increasing yoy - check

HD console gamers buying tons of games - check

I think it will be fine for HD games. It will also be good for Wii before anyone starts casting stones at me.



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I love it.. Gaming developers are fighting for my money by showing me they have the ability to make a GOOD enough game to justify my purchase.

That... to me is called "progress".... or to some, "Survival of the Fittest".



on the other hand, What is coming out to Nintendo Wii this holiday again?



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kingofwale said:
I love it.. Gaming developers are fighting for my money by showing me they have the ability to make a GOOD enough game to justify my purchase.

That... to me is called "progress".... or to some, "Survival of the Fittest".



on the other hand, What is coming out to Nintendo Wii this holiday again?

 

i am buying 3 -5 games so it working =D