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...then why the hell does he lose so many lightsaber duels? Dooku defeats Anakin in Ep.2. Obi Wan defeats Anakin/newly christened Darth Vader in Ep.3. SPOILER The Apprentice/Galen Marek defeats Vader in Force Unleashed. END SPOILER and Luke defeats Vader in Ep.6. Are we supposed to assume that as the chosen one Anakin is the greatest all-around force user in existence, but there are others whose abilities may exceed his in certain individual categories such as saber skills? If you are interested in a summation of the Force Unleashed story, go here. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galen_Marek



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Defeated, not killed. The prophecy probably didn't say anything about how successful he would be in his "other" endeavors.

As long as he lived it could still be fufilled.



Anything from Episode 1 through Episode 3 must be ignored in order for Starwars not to be awful ...

 



It seems pure luck that he wasn't killed. Yoda prevented Dooku from killing him. Obi Wan assumed he HAD killed him (the Emperor saved him). Marek chose not to kill him despite the Emperor commanding him to. Same thing with Luke. The Emperor told Luke to kill him, but he refused.



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The prophecy said he would bring balance to the force.

It did not say he would win lots and lots of lightsaber matches

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HappySqurriel said:

Anything from Episode 1 through Episode 3 must be ignored in order for Starwars not to be awful ...

 

 

Why does everyone hate the prequels so much? Sure, they had some bad parts (EP 2 love scenes, Jar Jar, Hayden Christensen) but overall I though they were enjoyable movies that completed the series well.



HappySqurriel said:

Anything from Episode 1 through Episode 3 must be ignored in order for Starwars not to be awful ...

 

I actually LOVE the prequel trilogy.  I'm really into the swordplay.  The saber fights in 1-3 make the ones in 4-6 look amateurish, especially Obi vs. Vader.

 



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all the prophesy said is that he would be great and bring balance to the force.

He did in two ways, DV killed off all of the jedis except two. 2 jedis = 2 sith = balanced. Plus, he completely removed the sith by episode 6 by turning back and killing Sidious.

RE: the prequels, only whiney fanboys that saw the first three with they were kids see so much hatred in the prequels. I think their humor and style fit perfectly with the originals and only love for the whole story.



He is the Chosen One, but he is not all powerful. Hell, in Attack of the Clones, Anakin was only a simple Padawan, and he was exhausted from fighting beasts and robots and whatnot in Geonosis. How the hell is he going to turn around and fight a Sith Lord with decades of experience after ALSO getting hit by powerful and damaging force lightning?

In Episode 3, you have to also consider that Obi-Wan was older and had more experience than Anakin. Anakin likely would have won the fight, but Obi-Wan took the high ground (which he so eloquently explained) and was able to take advantage of Anakin's arrogance (arrogance being a common trait of the Sith). I don't think that there would be any question that Anakin would have won otherwise.

As for Episode 6, the fight did seem strange, but you have to consider that Luke was the SON of the Chosen One. He may not have had as high a midi-chlorian count, or have been as powerful with the force, but he was still an incredibly powerful Jedi Knight. Hell, Cade Skywalker was able to devastate Darth Talon despite having much less experience with the force. Palpatine's continued taunting, and Vader's comment that he would turn Leia to the dark side, simply sent Luke over the edge. He came out at full force, with the strength of rage and the dark side behind him. If you watch the fight, he's not even battling very gracefully. He swings his lightsaber around like a club, and Vader keels over until Luke finally chops off his hand. My theory is that Vader felt exhausted (he was a middle aged burn victim with 3 prosthetic limbs in a heavy respirator suit), and he knew that defeat was inevitable. He simply fell to the ground with exhaustion and hopelessness.

As for The Force Unleashed...screw that shit.