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So Sqrl, can you watch the new Palin interview and not laugh your ass off when she starts muttering about "Putin rearing his head in American airspace" and how she can protect America because she's his neighbor? Even Couric holds back a smile when she has to ask this stupid question and get the stupidest possible answer. I can't believe she didn't burst out laughing. She's got a great poker face.



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
So Sqrl, can you watch the new Palin interview and not laugh your ass off when she starts muttering about "Putin rearing his head in American airspace" and how she can protect America because she's his neighbor? Even Couric holds back a smile when she has to ask this stupid question and get the stupidest possible answer. I can't believe she didn't burst out laughing. She's got a great poker face.

Its not her best interview but its pretty far from what you guys are making it out to be. Of course all you're doing is proving my point.  This is the next crap you're trying to make stick, you can't stand her political views so you have to destroy her by any means necessary..I don't even think you guys are trying to hide it.

So Rubang, can you look back on this thread and the false stories you've propogated and not laugh your ass off at the sleaziness of it?



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The news came from G-d to Palin to me to VGChartz! I am not ashamed!

Much of it was debunked. More comes up constantly. She's become the laughingstock of the election, and even if every single thing was debunked and she was a great politician, she's absolutely horrible at repeating talking points during interviews. Even Bush speaks better, and is always proud and confident when he says his crazy stuff. Palin looks nervous as hell when she rambles and forgets words and says crazy stuff. My guess is that not only did they not vet her, but now they're not even prepping her for interviews or coaching or advising her at all.

I'd report stuff this crazy on McCain if it existed, but he's not the fresh new face on the ticket undergoing a media blackout. Their platform now seems to be "introduce a fresh new face, hide the fresh new face, blame the media, hide from the media, and see if anybody remembers to vote for us."



The Ghost of RubangB said:
The news came from G-d to Palin to me to VGChartz! I am not ashamed!

Much of it was debunked. More comes up constantly. She's become the laughingstock of the election, and even if every single thing was debunked and she was a great politician, she's absolutely horrible at repeating talking points during interviews. Even Bush speaks better, and is always proud and confident when he says his crazy stuff. Palin looks nervous as hell when she rambles and forgets words and says crazy stuff. My guess is that not only did they not vet her, but now they're not even prepping her for interviews or coaching or advising her at all.

I'd report stuff this crazy on McCain if it existed, but he's not the fresh new face on the ticket undergoing a media blackout. Their platform now seems to be "introduce a fresh new face, hide the fresh new face, blame the media, hide from the media, and see if anybody remembers to vote for us."

Ok so you embrace the sleaziness then?

Your view of her is pretty much the lock-step kook fringe view.



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The rape kit allegation seemed to be false and something she did not know about, but the interview, there is no defending it sqrl. Her answers are absolute shit. It shows all she has are talking points, she can make NO actual analysis about the issues! She didn't explain anything about rick davis but a talking point, she defended her seeing russia....wtf. Her answer on Israel basically said they get to do whatever they want no questions asked. I think Israel should be able to defend itself, but if it goes to far there should be questions. The list goes on. This is not fringe kooks talking about the interview.



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I put all the interviews in the OP, along with links to FactCheck.org and her Wikipedia page. If there's anything else you'd like in the OP to make it less sleazy, let me know. I should keep it out of the OP. I went for a neutral thread title and it should have a neutral OP.

I really think letting the facts speak for themselves is all I really need to do to smear her because I think she can do a good enough job of smearing herself. But yes, I am embracing the sleaziness.



Sqrl said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
So Sqrl, can you watch the new Palin interview and not laugh your ass off when she starts muttering about "Putin rearing his head in American airspace" and how she can protect America because she's his neighbor? Even Couric holds back a smile when she has to ask this stupid question and get the stupidest possible answer. I can't believe she didn't burst out laughing. She's got a great poker face.

Its not her best interview but its pretty far from what you guys are making it out to be. Of course all you're doing is proving my point.  This is the next crap you're trying to make stick, you can't stand her political views so you have to destroy her by any means necessary..I don't even think you guys are trying to hide it.

So Rubang, can you look back on this thread and the false stories you've propogated and not laugh your ass off at the sleaziness of it?

 

Sorry sqrl, but I really don't see how you can defend Palins interview with Couric. She looked like a 12 year old. If it wasn't so scary it would be laughable, but the fact is that the chances of McCain not surviving his first term are pretty big. Palin as president would be a joke but a joke in the most powerful job in the world is not such a good idea, and even the biggest McCain fan should be able to recognize that.
Think about the reaction of the countries "that don't like the US very much (Charlie)" with someone leading the country that seriously says that she has foregn policy credentials because she can see Russia.



Sqrl said:
madskillz said:
@ Ghost - those rape kits are why that head trooper got fired. According to documents, Palin's staff said she fired Moneghan because he flew to D.C. to lobby for funds to pay for the kits.

She's soooooo going down - but with McCain saying he's suspending his camp and doesn't - what a stunt. All to delay his debate and cancel hers. What a louse.

My bad - Country First.

No, the rape kit situation was an issue of the state not just Wasilla. There was a statewide investigation into the practice before she became governor and during the hearings Wasilla was never even mentioned once by name. The problem is that when they went in digging for dirt they found a story in Wasilla about Wasilla being one of the towns with the outdated policy and went ahead with the story neglecting to mention that it was far from the only town and was not an issue or position Palin ever supported.

It also has nothing to do with the Monegan issue which you would know if you had even bothered to read some of the numerous .pdf documents that are out there about this sham of a case. One of the reasons monegan was fired was because he refused to hire on new troopers with funding designated for it. The legistlature and the budget appropriated those funds specifically for staffing and he wouldn't cooperate. Of course that was just the first issue.

The issue you've been confused by is that he put a request for travel in with the governor's office and listed it as a meeting with Lisa Murkowski. His real intentions were only made clear shortly before he left and is when he was actually transfered. The real reason for his visit was to try and talk to the legislative delegation about adding earmarks for bolstering their ability to handle sexual assault cases through personnel (which he had funding for already) and materials. The problem is that Palin's staff had told him repeatedly to submit a budget request for this and that it would be considered for that year or the next..he requested it late in the budgetting process so it was actually a bit of an olive branch to offer even an attempt at squeezing it in that year.

In addition to that he was going around her back and putting together budget proposals with Hollis French (the guy leading the legislative investigation btw) and in general ignoring her requests and her staffs request for him to work within the bounds of the normal budgeting procedure before trying to use more radical approaches. He even admits his transfer was his own fault in the email he put out to most of the governor's staff when he left. He talked about how he had failed to work with the governor and that others shouldn't take the path he did. Again actually go do some research before throwing out info that is simply unsubstantiated.

Also I should point out that the legistlature is not authorized by their constituion to investigate the executive branch and in fact is only empowered to investigate for purposes that further legislation. The 3-member panel they are now working with is the only constituionally prescribed method for investigating. Don't take my word...read here.

The Personnel Board, Attorney General’s office, and designated ethics supervisors generally are responsible for applying the Ethics Act. When an ethics complaint is filed against the governor, lieutenant governor or attorney general, the complaint is referred to the Personnel Board, which retains Independent Counsel to perform the duties ordinarily performed by the attorney general

Here is a head start on the research:

On August 29th, 2008, Thomas Van Flein sent a letter to Independent Counsel for Sen. French, Steve Branchwater introducing himself as Palin’s legal counsel. Sen. French was not CC’d on this letter.

On Sept 1st, a letter came in response… not from Branchwater, but from Sen. French, himself. French’s letter was directly to Van Flein, CC’d to no one… not even his own legal counsel, Branchwater.

ethics disclosure

branchflower complaint

suspension details

emails about wooten

Sarahs trooper interview

notes from the interview

Todds trooper interview

Note that there is even more info out there for those who want it. Ignorance is a choice on this issue, it is well documented and extremely clear cut once you have the facts.

PS - If you only read one of these, read this one. It explains the stupidity of this whole thing very well.

There are other stories, but this is the only one I can find at the moment:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trooper20-2008sep20,0,3535582.story

In a July 7 e-mail, John Katz, Palin's special counsel, noted two problems with the trip: The governor hadn't agreed the money should be sought, and the request was "out of sequence with our other appropriations requests and could put a strain on the evolving relationship between the governor and Sen. [Ted] Stevens."

But a travel authorization document signed by Palin Chief of Staff Mike Nizich on June 18 approved Monegan's trip to Washington for the purpose of meeting Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska).

The document's existence was first reported by ABC News on Friday. Monegan told ABC that the travel authorization was explicitly to pursue funding for the anti-sexual-violence program, but the document does not give that as a reason for the trip.

 



I find it odd that CNN debunked the "Rape Kit" story 2 weeks ago and people are still brining it up ...



I did a VGC search and found 8 Sarah Palin threads that I'd missed, and put them all in the OP. It's a really juicy OP now and has all the interviews and most of the links so far.