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ZenfoldorVGI on 01 September 2008

Haven't played IU. So far, ToV is the best jrpg I've played on the 360, and one of the best games I've played this gen. However, I'm a huge Tales fan, so the game appeals to me, in particular.

I didn't like Eternal Sonata or Lost Odyssey, though I respect them and their fanbase, and certainly see those game's appeal.

I also want to add that Tales is getting introduced to a whole new fanbase because of its availability on the 360. I only wish it were available across all platforms, because I think the game could capture the hearts of thousands of new Tales fans. It really is a fun game, and I'd give it to any gamer I know, confident that they would be absolutely charmed, assuming they'd played farther than 3 hours in.



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Domo-Kun on 01 September 2008

Eternal Sonata is pretty good if you excuse the terrible story line.

The combat is kind of real time and turn based at the same time, which makes it kind of awkward until you get to know it.

The game looks vibrant and coloful, and the character sprites are very well drawn with quite a bit of detail.

The downfall of ES is the cheesy dialogue.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 01 September 2008
Domo-Kun said:
Eternal Sonata is pretty good if you excuse the terrible story line.

The combat is kind of real time and turn based at the same time, which makes it kind of awkward until you get to know it.

The game looks vibrant and coloful, and the character sprites are very well drawn with quite a bit of detail.

The downfall of ES is the cheesy dialogue.

 

I certainly agree, the combat was quite fun. I wouldn't discourage any PS3 fans waiting for this to come out. It has its strengths and weaknesses, but it just focuses on the wrong areas for me, and doesn't suit my tastes as much as I'd have liked. The graphics and music are breath-taking, as well as the combat.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

mrstickball on 01 September 2008
Auron said:

So imight get a 360 soon and the only reason i would ever get this piece of HW is due to the number of JRPGs on the system.  So give me the rundown on the good and the bad JRPGs on the system and your reasons why.  May include upcoming titles.

Here are the current ones I've played, and a few I haven't:

Game Name IMO Score Positives Negatives Verdict:
Lost Odyssey 9.0 Fantastic take on the FFX-esque battle system by Sakaguchi. Good story, and beautiful writing in the Thousand Year Dreams. Very good graphics, perfect musical score, very good VA. 60+ Hours UE3 engine isn't perfect, and there are some technical hangups. The game's combat is very by-the-book If you want to re-live classic JRPG-turned 128bit, get this game. Awesome game.
Tales of Vesperia 8.75 Perfect, deep combat system. Solid & lighthearted storyline. 4 player co-op battle system. Good VA and musical score. 60+ Hours At points, may be too light hearted. I haven't beat it to make any fleshed out neg. comments. I'm about 5hrs in, and ToV may be the best JRPG on the X360, and best ARPG ever.
Blue Dragon 8.75 Beautiful graphics. Classic Uematsu soundtrack. Very good job class system. A true emulation of classic Dragon Quest-esque gameplay. 50+ Hours VA sucks for the most part. Story is kind of by-the-book. Great compliment to Lost Odyssey, but more..Cartoony. Which may be a good thing.
Eternal Sonata 8.0 GORGEOUS CELL SHADED GRAPHICS. Awesome musical score. Good combat system, and passable VA. 30+ Hours Confusing storyline. Combat system gets shallow later on. Unbalanced economy, and rather easy toward the end. Not as good as ToV key respects, but a good compliment, as the GFX are crisp. Has 3p Co-Op which gets a good score from me.
Culdcept Saga 7.75 Pokemon TCG/Monopoly hybrid. One of the best TCG games around. 500+ cards, solid gameplay, good and tough AI. 50+ Hours May not like TCGs. Poor graphics, and a near-useless storyline. Any TCG fan owes it to themselves to play Culdcept Saga. Outside of that...Not many will enjoy the hardcore TCG/Board Game combo it has.
Enchanted Arms 7.25 Good grid-based combat system, nice pokemon-esque collect 'em character system w/ the Golums. 25+ Hours Everything else screams ultra-mediocre. It's a mediocre PS2 RPG with a few next-gen graphical parts. Worth a rent if you've played everything else.
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom 7.25 Sweet JRPG take on Hack & Slash RPG-ing. Technical marvel w/ 50+ enemies onscreen. Tons of loot to be had. 4p Online makes it a gem. Very boring on 1p mode...Forgettable storylines, even with the KUF lore. Must-play if you can find 3 buds to go online with. Otherwise, not very fun by yourself.
Phantasy Star Online 7.0 Good combat system, and has some of the Phantasy Star lore behind it. It also has a decent MMO community still. 20+ Hours Direct PS2 port in every way. SP campaign is short lived, and not that great. SP Campaign isn't that amazing. Combat system saves an otherwise forgettable SP game.
Haven't Played: Media Score:
Spectral Force 3 62.3% Seems like a mediocre SRPG, with a good combat system...Maybe a good Disagaea clone? Could of been made on the PS2. Not well-enjoyed by media Rent if you must get your SRPG fix.
Operation: Darkness 50.3% Quirky WW2 SRPG/Strategy game. Combat, at points, is interesting, as is the story line. Difficult to work with the camera, and very hard game to beat, thanks to unbalanced mechanics. Same as SF3...Rent if you must play an SRPG. Otherwise, may not be worth time.
Coming Soon:
Infinite Undiscovery Sept 2nd Good open-world ARPG combat system, and tons of unique gameplay mechanics. Short, and filled with technical flaws. 18 Characters make some characters seem uninspired. Looking forward to this one. Looks like a must-play, despite 70.3% avg. from 3 reviews.
Zoids Assault Sept 9th Best SRPG of the Atlus trifecta of SF3, and O:D Not really saying much to be the best out of crappy SRPGs, eh? May be your best SRPG fix on the 360 this year.
The Last Remnant Nov. Actual S-E built JRPG...Good combat system, and interesting character development, progression, and acquisition. UE3-developed game. May suffer from technical flaws. Could be a better version of IU. Who knows? We'll see in November

I think that's it for now?

Generally, the 4 best RPGs are going to be the top 4 I listed. It depends on your JRPG preferences. By all means, get LO and ToV first, as they seem to be the best of the ATB and real-time JRPGs currently. I have both, and can vouch for how good they both are.

 



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Cactus on 01 September 2008
mrstickball said:
Auron said:

So imight get a 360 soon and the only reason i would ever get this piece of HW is due to the number of JRPGs on the system.  So give me the rundown on the good and the bad JRPGs on the system and your reasons why.  May include upcoming titles.

Here are the current ones I've played, and a few I haven't:

Game Name IMO Score Positives Negatives Verdict:
Lost Odyssey 9.0 Fantastic take on the FFX-esque battle system by Sakaguchi. Good story, and beautiful writing in the Thousand Year Dreams. Very good graphics, perfect musical score, very good VA. 60+ Hours UE3 engine isn't perfect, and there are some technical hangups. The game's combat is very by-the-book If you want to re-live classic JRPG-turned 128bit, get this game. Awesome game.
Tales of Vesperia 8.75 Perfect, deep combat system. Solid & lighthearted storyline. 4 player co-op battle system. Good VA and musical score. 60+ Hours At points, may be too light hearted. I haven't beat it to make any fleshed out neg. comments. I'm about 5hrs in, and ToV may be the best JRPG on the X360, and best ARPG ever.
Blue Dragon 8.75 Beautiful graphics. Classic Uematsu soundtrack. Very good job class system. A true emulation of classic Dragon Quest-esque gameplay. 50+ Hours VA sucks for the most part. Story is kind of by-the-book. Great compliment to Lost Odyssey, but more..Cartoony. Which may be a good thing.
Eternal Sonata 8.0 GORGEOUS CELL SHADED GRAPHICS. Awesome musical score. Good combat system, and passable VA. 30+ Hours Confusing storyline. Combat system gets shallow later on. Unbalanced economy, and rather easy toward the end. Not as good as ToV key respects, but a good compliment, as the GFX are crisp. Has 3p Co-Op which gets a good score from me.
Culdcept Saga 7.75 Pokemon TCG/Monopoly hybrid. One of the best TCG games around. 500+ cards, solid gameplay, good and tough AI. 50+ Hours May not like TCGs. Poor graphics, and a near-useless storyline. Any TCG fan owes it to themselves to play Culdcept Saga. Outside of that...Not many will enjoy the hardcore TCG/Board Game combo it has.
Enchanted Arms 7.25 Good grid-based combat system, nice pokemon-esque collect 'em character system w/ the Golums. 25+ Hours Everything else screams ultra-mediocre. It's a mediocre PS2 RPG with a few next-gen graphical parts. Worth a rent if you've played everything else.
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom 7.25 Sweet JRPG take on Hack & Slash RPG-ing. Technical marvel w/ 50+ enemies onscreen. Tons of loot to be had. 4p Online makes it a gem. Very boring on 1p mode...Forgettable storylines, even with the KUF lore. Must-play if you can find 3 buds to go online with. Otherwise, not very fun by yourself.
Phantasy Star Online 7.0 Good combat system, and has some of the Phantasy Star lore behind it. It also has a decent MMO community still. 20+ Hours Direct PS2 port in every way. SP campaign is short lived, and not that great. SP Campaign isn't that amazing. Combat system saves an otherwise forgettable SP game.
Haven't Played: Media Score:
Spectral Force 3 62.3% Seems like a mediocre SRPG, with a good combat system...Maybe a good Disagaea clone? Could of been made on the PS2. Not well-enjoyed by media Rent if you must get your SRPG fix.
Operation: Darkness 50.3% Quirky WW2 SRPG/Strategy game. Combat, at points, is interesting, as is the story line. Difficult to work with the camera, and very hard game to beat, thanks to unbalanced mechanics. Same as SF3...Rent if you must play an SRPG. Otherwise, may not be worth time.
Coming Soon:
Infinite Undiscovery Sept 2nd Good open-world ARPG combat system, and tons of unique gameplay mechanics. Short, and filled with technical flaws. 18 Characters make some characters seem uninspired. Looking forward to this one. Looks like a must-play, despite 70.3% avg. from 3 reviews.
Zoids Assault Sept 9th Best SRPG of the Atlus trifecta of SF3, and O:D Not really saying much to be the best out of crappy SRPGs, eh? May be your best SRPG fix on the 360 this year.
The Last Remnant Nov. Actual S-E built JRPG...Good combat system, and interesting character development, progression, and acquisition. UE3-developed game. May suffer from technical flaws. Could be a better version of IU. Who knows? We'll see in November

I think that's it for now?

Generally, the 4 best RPGs are going to be the top 4 I listed. It depends on your JRPG preferences. By all means, get LO and ToV first, as they seem to be the best of the ATB and real-time JRPGs currently. I have both, and can vouch for how good they both are.

 

 

I'm glad at least someone is giving Blue Dragon the respect it deserves. I thought it was amazing, and I agree with the music being top notch. The only thing that I thought could have seriously improved was the characters. The story IMO was great but the characters were utterly terrible.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 01 September 2008

Oh yeah, I've never played Blue Dragon, so I'm not leaving it out because I hate it. I just never thought to add it because I hear so much negative stuff about it, I never bothered. Maybe I should go back and pick it up. :P



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Cactus on 01 September 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Oh yeah, I've never played Blue Dragon, so I'm not leaving it out because I hate it. I just never thought to add it because I hear so much negative stuff about it, I never bothered. Maybe I should go back and pick it up. :P

 

Along with FFXII, I think it's the most underrated game that is bashed regularly on message boards :p



Domo-Kun on 01 September 2008

I'll have to check it out also.



We'll miss you George.

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XBL:XpuzzlefaceX

My friends call me Hadoken because I'm down-right fierce

mrstickball on 01 September 2008
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Oh yeah, I've never played Blue Dragon, so I'm not leaving it out because I hate it. I just never thought to add it because I hear so much negative stuff about it, I never bothered. Maybe I should go back and pick it up. :P

It really depends on what your looking for in a JRPG. It's more traditional than Lost Odyssey was/is, in my opinion.

But the fact is, for most every JRPG I've played, Blue Dragon has one of the BEST job class system(s) of any game I've played. Every class is accessible early on, and you have to be very strategic in how you utilize the jobs. If you download the free hard move for the game, it becomes VERY tactical when you fight, as the combat system can become very deep if you learn enough about it.

However, it's still not going to do anything amazing as a standard turn based JRPG..If you don't like Lost Odyssey, there's a 80% chance you won't like Blue Dragon.

However, the graphics are just gorgeous, and there are less technical issues with Blue Dragon. Despite the cartoony graphics, they did an AMAZING job at capturing what a next-gen JRPG should be like. It's the Dragon Quest 9 we'll never get on consoles, as it nails that DQ-esque game in many respects.

Uematsu's sound track in BD (I think) is better than Lost Odysseys, slightly, as he uses far more themes that paralell Final Fantasies IV, V, and VI whereas Lost Odyssey is more modern sounding. Depending on your JRPG background (such as mine), I enjoyed Blue Dragon's soundtrack immensely.

Oh, and achievement wise, the game is insane. I'm at 70hrs with around 850/1000pts, and I may get up to 900 before I decide to give up the ghost, and not get anymore achievements - most achievements cannot be done w/o a walkthrough...Unlike LO.

Ultimately, Blue Dragon detractors just cannot wrap their heads around a 16bit JRPG that somehow got Xbox 360 HD treatment. The game is the ultimate ode to 16bit JRPGs (DQ, FF, Lufia, and BoF series, mainly). Those that attack the game do so, because they can't stand the archaic JRPG principles that BD has. Otherwise, it's near perfection for the hybrid TBS/ATB system that was so well rooted in the mid-90s.

 



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AceRock on 01 September 2008

It seems to me that I am the only one that has said anything remotely anti-BD. I just need to add that I didn't mean to push any negative agenda here. It just wasn't my personal taste. I tried hard to like it too.



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