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Jo21 on 31 August 2008

mass effect trilogy is not exclusive



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FishyJoe on 31 August 2008
stellabelg said:

Last Generation I would agree with you. 

You are totally right with your business perspective but didn't the last years showed us that the devs are not following the business logic that you and me have?

If I said in 2005.  The X360 will have a lot of Great EXCLUSIVE  Franchise JRPG's.  I am sure members would laugh with me and that Austrian guy would make a 'Boycott Beer stellabelg is the proof why you shouldn't drink beer thread'.

Does it make sense to make Exclusive JRPG's on X360? And we are not talking about small games and small devs. SE made an Exclusive JRPG for X360, Star Ocean 4 is Exclusive on X360 (and that is not really a small franchise), Sakaguchi, Nobuo worked on two exclusive games for X360......That all make sense from a business perspective?

 

Two years ago you would probably said ' Are you telling me that SE/TRI Ace are going to pass on millions of dollars with releasing Star Ocean IV on X360 EXCLUSIVE?   And I would totally agree with you but SE/Tri Ace didn't followed the sense from a Business perspective why Would Disney and SE would do it?

 

We don't know what type of deal it took to make those games exclusive, MS may have given enough money for it to be worthwhile. Those are pretty small franchises compared to KH or anything that has global sales potential in the 10+ million sales range. If Lego Star Wars can do 4-5 million sales, I see no reason why KH shouldn't be a 10+ million seller using a multi-platform strategy.

 

 

 



masterb8tr on 31 August 2008

the game not being released on the ps2 or the ps3 would be ridiculous imo. I dont think it will be exclusive, but it if its released on the wii, it should be released on the ps2 as well.
If its released on the 360 it should be released on ps3 as well.



FishyJoe on 31 August 2008

Is the KH portable game exclusive??? No. It's going to both the DS and PSP.

Seems pretty clear to me the franchise is not tied to any single platform.



Majin-Tenshinhan on 31 August 2008
FishyJoe said:
Is the KH portable game exclusive??? No. It's going to both the DS and PSP.

Seems pretty clear to me the franchise is not tied to any single platform.

Actually, they are two different games. But the series in itself, indeed, is not tied to any single platform.

 



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DMeisterJ on 31 August 2008

Oooh god, another KH thread.

And Soriku's all over it, talking about how Nomura has no influence on where the game goes.

I could stick around and argue that point is incorrect, but I don't want to get into a argument over a game that hasn't even been announced yet.



Sephiroth357 on 31 August 2008
DMeisterJ said:
Oooh god, another KH thread.

And Soriku's all over it, talking about how Nomura has no influence on where the game goes.

I could stick around and argue that point is incorrect, but I don't want to get into a argument over a game that hasn't even been announced yet.

 

 Rofl...




stellabelg on 31 August 2008
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
stellabelg said:
Soriku said:

@Deotox

The Wii actually has more RPGs I want...

@stella

WTF?

358/2 Days, BBS, Coded not out. Versus still being worked on heavily.

Proof enough?

 

1) When their was an article that said Versus is made by the KH team people just reacted like you. 'KH III in development LOL, Lol, they have no time for that'. Then 358 and BBS etc got announced and everyone got pwned. They have time to work on a other game(s).

2) With believing it will be on the Wii is nothing wrong. If you are right that the game is not in development yet, you believe that we are going to see it this generation? Games like KHIII will take not 1 or 2 years to make but possible 4-5 years. So if you are right and they start with it after Versus and all the rest is gold then they will start it in 2010. Great so we see it in 2014-2015? And that will still be this generation?

 

 

Sorry, I just had to comment on this. Games like KH3 take 4-5 years? Then explain to me why KH2 was released roughly 2½ years after KH1. Naturally, those 2½ years can not have been development time. Even assuming that they began development of KH2 full-out right after the first one (which is highly unlikely considering KH: Final Mix and Chain of Memories), the game will be completed for a while before it is released. I believe KH2 had a development time of, absolutely maximum, 1½ years. Proper development, not just throwing together some teaser for a show or something. So what makes you believe KH3 will have so much longer development time?

 

How dare you to comment on my post!!!  (PS:  You should not say sorry you are free to quote me and comment on it ).

1-  I am pretty sure you know that devs needed more time to make N64 games than making NES games with this I want to say they propbably (and in fact I am pretty sure about it) that they also need more time making a Wii/PS3 game and push the system than making a PS2 game.

2-  When they made KH2 they probably stole a lot from KH1 like the engine( I assume it) and probably just used the same characters from KH1 and gave them an upgrade (Not every character of course);  This makes it for them a lot easier to create  Kh2 and cost them less time.

Chain of Memories was made by the same team?  And did they put a lot into KH final mix? Who knows maybe the final mix extra's were already finished and did they release it later to get more sales?




Majin-Tenshinhan on 31 August 2008
stellabelg said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
stellabelg said:
Soriku said:

@Deotox

The Wii actually has more RPGs I want...

@stella

WTF?

358/2 Days, BBS, Coded not out. Versus still being worked on heavily.

Proof enough?

 

1) When their was an article that said Versus is made by the KH team people just reacted like you. 'KH III in development LOL, Lol, they have no time for that'. Then 358 and BBS etc got announced and everyone got pwned. They have time to work on a other game(s).

2) With believing it will be on the Wii is nothing wrong. If you are right that the game is not in development yet, you believe that we are going to see it this generation? Games like KHIII will take not 1 or 2 years to make but possible 4-5 years. So if you are right and they start with it after Versus and all the rest is gold then they will start it in 2010. Great so we see it in 2014-2015? And that will still be this generation?

 

 

Sorry, I just had to comment on this. Games like KH3 take 4-5 years? Then explain to me why KH2 was released roughly 2½ years after KH1. Naturally, those 2½ years can not have been development time. Even assuming that they began development of KH2 full-out right after the first one (which is highly unlikely considering KH: Final Mix and Chain of Memories), the game will be completed for a while before it is released. I believe KH2 had a development time of, absolutely maximum, 1½ years. Proper development, not just throwing together some teaser for a show or something. So what makes you believe KH3 will have so much longer development time?

 

How dare you to comment on my post!!! (PS: You should not say sorry you are free to quote me and comment on it ).

1- I am pretty sure you know that devs needed more time to make N64 games than making NES games with this I want to say they propbably (and in fact I am pretty sure about it) that they also need more time making a Wii/PS3 game and push the system than making a PS2 game.

2- When they made KH2 they probably stole a lot from KH1 like the engine( I assume it) and probably just used the same characters from KH1 and gave them an upgrade (Not every character of course); This makes it for them a lot easier to create Kh2 and cost them less time.

Chain of Memories was made by the same team? And did they put a lot into KH final mix? Who knows maybe the final mix extra's were already finished and did they release it later to get more sales?

 

 

1. Of course, but that doesn't mean they need 4-5 years. I think most games, that aren't shovelware, have a development cycle somewhere between 1 and 2 years. Then again, this is Square we're talking about...

 

2. Perhaps. The graphics are certainly touched up, however, and there are new worlds as well as new abilities, and new models even for the recurring characters (Lion King Sora/Donald/Goofy, for example)

 

Maybe Chain of Memories wasn't made by the same team, I'm actually not entirely sure. What you say about KH: Final Mix is quite possible indeed, but I still think putting KH3 at 4-5 years is quite an overstatement.



stellabelg on 31 August 2008
FishyJoe said:
stellabelg said:

Last Generation I would agree with you. 

You are totally right with your business perspective but didn't the last years showed us that the devs are not following the business logic that you and me have?

If I said in 2005.  The X360 will have a lot of Great EXCLUSIVE  Franchise JRPG's.  I am sure members would laugh with me and that Austrian guy would make a 'Boycott Beer stellabelg is the proof why you shouldn't drink beer thread'.

Does it make sense to make Exclusive JRPG's on X360? And we are not talking about small games and small devs. SE made an Exclusive JRPG for X360, Star Ocean 4 is Exclusive on X360 (and that is not really a small franchise), Sakaguchi, Nobuo worked on two exclusive games for X360......That all make sense from a business perspective?

 

Two years ago you would probably said ' Are you telling me that SE/TRI Ace are going to pass on millions of dollars with releasing Star Ocean IV on X360 EXCLUSIVE?   And I would totally agree with you but SE/Tri Ace didn't followed the sense from a Business perspective why Would Disney and SE would do it?

 

We don't know what type of deal it took to make those games exclusive, MS may have given enough money for it to be worthwhile. Those are pretty small franchises compared to KH or anything that has global sales potential in the 10+ million sales range. If Lego Star Wars can do 4-5 million sales, I see no reason why KH shouldn't be a 10+ million seller using a multi-platform strategy.

 

 

 

 

True.  If they can spend $50 million for some DLC I would not be surprised they spend the double of that amount for KHIII or even more. 


And yes SO is not that big of a Franchise still they had a $23 million revenue only in Japan.

And yups KH III could be a multi-platform game I never said it couldn't or did I? Only I gave it a very small chance it will be multiplaform if it release on the Wii.