Although I'm completely convinced that replacements direct from Microsoft aren't counted in sales figures, this isn't the whole story.

In Europe, the retailer has to handle refunds. Often (budget stores), they'll just send you to the manufacturer, but I've had problems with particularly Chinese and American companies with no interest at all in handling their obligations, and had to get my refund from the retailer instead - which is usually much more convenient anyway. High-end stores as part of their 'reason for existance' will often do immediate swap-out replacements and then handle it with the manufacturer later on.

For retailers handling refunds, would these be included in the sales figures? (MS would have to send a new console to the retailer). What percentage of overall replacements might these be?

I notice the OP hasnt posted again....

Whos alt account could he be?

Stupid thread.

Hi all,

Dang! It's been a long time sleeping from signing in to this site since my first post... What a LOL!!!.. Yeah finally my superb calculation is finally proven.. DOn't bash me as sony fanboys because I've 3 xbox360 and 3 ps3 and dozen of games for each console.. Good huh..!

2xbox RROD 1 ps3 YLOD and another one strike by lightning (what a shame)...

Somehow, i wonder about current gen.. Will give you a quick calculation after both console on market.. I do love math so no worry... actually PS4 will lead the generation without doubt.. But XBONE will have a good sharing market out there.. a bit left behind but still good.. we will not see run and catch from M$ because Sony will lead the system.. oh wait... poor wii-U....

So, hi VGchartz.. it's been long time not seeing you... whaaa.. ...

mkhairie said: Hi all, Dang! It's been a long time sleeping from signing in to this site since my first post... What a LOL!!!.. Yeah finally my superb calculation is finally proven.. DOn't bash me as sony fanboys because I've 3 xbox360 and 3 ps3 and dozen of games for each console.. Good huh..! 2xbox RROD 1 ps3 YLOD and another one strike by lightning (what a shame)... Somehow, i wonder about current gen.. Will give you a quick calculation after both console on market.. I do love math so no worry... actually PS4 will lead the generation without doubt.. But XBONE will have a good sharing market out there.. a bit left behind but still good.. we will not see run and catch from M$ because Sony will lead the system.. oh wait... poor wii-U.... So, hi VGchartz.. it's been long time not seeing you... whaaa.. ...

With todays news hat xbox one gives consumers amchoice and ps4 doesnt, ps4 will not beat xbox one

YEah for sure you wanna make some bets with me... What's your deal?.. .. Buy me second son and forza 5... will you?...

Uuuu.. your avatar.. that's the best pic i've ever seen... ... to be truth, you will enjoy your ps4 later... see ya...

Everyone praise mkhairie !!
Could you please do your magic calculations to see in what future holds for X1 and PS4.

Holy shit. Is this really Stage? :p

Jesus christ this brings back memories of then this site wasn't all sony fanboys. I remember this thread back in the day and even then I was surprised at how many people didn't agree with you or striaght up loled at you.

If OP made this thread today, it would span 7 pages of non stop xbox hate.