lmao. i like this thread, a very good first post. absolutely perfect if i say so myself, very well done.

even though your calculations stand correct i dont think refurbished 360's have been counted as hardware sales, well i hope not.

Anyway i would say th number is round about the 17mil range give a mill or take a few 100 thousand.

If you discounted anyone that bought a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th PS2 after breakdown, it would only have sold about 80 million (complete guess) to unique users.

Just because some new poster spews nonsense doesn't mean you have to do it too ya know.

PS2 failure rates where no where near as high as the early 360 ones.

Welcome to VG Chartz..........

Uhh....

Your post is full of fail

Hummm...

I live in Brazil ... and people who had problems and bought the US 360 (the majority purchase instead of the Brazilian version), had to buy a new.

The warranty of 3-year only works on Brazilian version here.

But I believe that this number is not expressive.

Best first post ever

too much maths D:

i'd agree with you if I didn't know for a fact that you are wrong. This is coming from someone who is currently without a 360 due to RROD.

Hope you stick around..

Hence why other posters said an adjustment of 0.01% of X360 console sales should be adjusted due to the RROD issue.

At any rate, everyone else has discussed the proper adjustment of consoles due to X360 failures. One needs to remember: Microsoft shipping numbers are concerning the total # of consoles sold to retail...How can Microsoft report themselves selling a console to a retailer, when a warranty is about......Replacing a console w/o charging the retailer?

So then we have 3 options:

1) VGC is GROSSLY overestimating X360 sales to an unprecidented level of insane proportions, and initiating the biggest console conspiracy since the whole Sony/Nintendo SNES-CD debacle

2) Microsoft has about 5 million consoles sitting on store shelves due to them over-reporting shipping numbers. If this is the case, Microsoft should be sued for false reporting to investors.

3) Microsoft and VGC data fits together (as it does), and that refurbs are not a part of the sales numbers we all see - hence the $1b Microsoft exacted from their fiancial reports last year to cover new console costs for system replacements - why would they double report sales numbers, when they went ahead and reported the proper number of new consoles for replacements over a year ago?

Wow... your first post is much longer then mine was :P