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Well, forevercloud, it seems that you could say people feel more sorry for the 360 then the PS3. I guess many people think that the 360 doesn't deserve to be outsold by PS3...



 

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wow, I saw this thread and clicked it, ready to write exactly what you said. Thank you :)



noname2200 said:
Squilliam said:

Anyway the point I want to make was that noone here has the full picture, not even Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo do! So while there may be a practical consensus that the PS3 > Xbox 360 in overall sales eventually, it doesn't actually make it true.

By that reasoning, no one should ever bother planning for the future, because it's just too uncertain...

Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo have more of the picture but the people are getting glimpses. My point was that while there may be a majority of people here that believe one thing, it doesn't make it true.

 



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I actually feel sorry for people who are waiting for the ps3 to overtake the 360 in sales....to put it straight, half of the generate will have 360 in the lead and the other half will have the ps3, unless things go horribly wrong...
and when the ps3 does overtake, I doubt it will change anything...the 360 wont lose games over it, they'll both enjoy several games, and that is what should really matter to us...



Phoenix_Wiight said:
wow, I saw this thread and clicked it, ready to write exactly what you said. Thank you :)

Thanks!

 

 



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Squilliam said:
noname2200 said:
Squilliam said:

Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo have more of the picture but the people are getting glimpses. My point was that while there may be a majority of people here that believe one thing, it doesn't make it true.

 

Then it seems we're in agreement.

Although rampant speculation with the available data can be fun too; why else are we posting on a sales site?

 



we can compare the xbox 360 with the American and Sovjets tanks in world war 2
and the ps3 with the German tanks.

The German tanks were superior in power but expensive and hard to build, they were crushed by the cheap and easy to make tanks from the Allies and Sovjets.



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jpain333 said:
I actually feel sorry for people who are waiting for the ps3 to overtake the 360 in sales....to put it straight, half of the generate will have 360 in the lead and the other half will have the ps3, unless things go horribly wrong...
and when the ps3 does overtake, I doubt it will change anything...the 360 wont lose games over it, they'll both enjoy several games, and that is what should really matter to us...

 

I just love the statements like these that show how defeated the 360 has surely become. First 360 owners world wide spamed the interweb when it came out proclaiming it was better then the PS3 in every way. Yet now that the general populous is becoming more informed this gen you can see that any argument that trys to say the 360 can survive the PS3 onslaught is highly invalid.

1. The PS3 costs too much.

Turns out the PS3 is a much better bang for your buck. You dont have to deal with RROD, Great game selection, Built in DVD/BD player, built in WIFI, built in USB ports, SD reader, rechargable controllers, free usb cord, etc.

2.The PS3 breaks down.

This one in particular is a lie I have seen employees from GStop use only to spread there propaganda. THe PS3 does break down.......sometimes. Yet it is still no where near the failure rate of the 360, being somewhere around 30-35%. RROD and disc drive failure, Disc scratching galore.

3.The PS3 has no games.

The PS3 has the SAME amount of games that the 360 had in the same time frame. Only thing is the 360 has a lot of games that came out multiplat with the PS2 like the sports games. If you have a BC PS3 you can still play them. PS3 also is a shoe in for MULTIPLE AAA titles this year(Little Big Planet, Resistence 2), with two of the already Perfect games being available on PS3(GTA4, MGS4).

4. The PS3 won't last long.

Ten year life plan. If you think Sony cant/wont do it just look at the life cycle of there other systems. Doubters are just being stubborn.

5. BluRay is useless.

BluRay won over the cheaper format, HD Discs. It is now taking the DVD market in small strides. increasing 300% on a yearly basis. Blu Ray has also showen it can help with games such as packing as much content as possible in a singular disc, MGS4 anyone?

6.Cell chips are not needed.

Then why have pretty much any developer making a Multiplat game right now have swithed to using IT as it's lead platform. Yes, the cell is a tad harder to program for then the 360, but it has shown to produce better results for both systems. No developer in there right mind will tell you the 360 can out perform the PS3, if they do they are delusional.

7. 360 Outsold PS3.

No......it did not. It has a larger install base, this is all. The 360 was doomed from the start, with the PS3 out pacing it in every turn. PS3 has outsold 360 every month consistently since late last year.

8. Well we have Live.

Yea, that you have to PAY for every year. PSN is just about equal to Live at this current point in time, what is going to happen when HOME comes out and takes the community junky gamers by storm?

Now the only defense for the system is "Yea, it might happen, but when it does it wont matter cuz 720 will be on it's way." Yea, but can the 720 stand up against a system that need not upgrade as it is already got the tech of the future and has a larger install base by default. If the 720 comes out before the PS3's ten year life cycle is up then rest assure we will never see another console war like this again, and sony will stay dominant in Hardcore gamer's households forevermore.



      

      

      

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jpain333 said:
I actually feel sorry for people who are waiting for the ps3 to overtake the 360 in sales....to put it straight, half of the generate will have 360 in the lead and the other half will have the ps3, unless things go horribly wrong...
and when the ps3 does overtake, I doubt it will change anything...the 360 wont lose games over it, they'll both enjoy several games, and that is what should really matter to us...

 

Best post I have seen in a while.



forevercloud3000 said:
jpain333 said:
I actually feel sorry for people who are waiting for the ps3 to overtake the 360 in sales....to put it straight, half of the generate will have 360 in the lead and the other half will have the ps3, unless things go horribly wrong...
and when the ps3 does overtake, I doubt it will change anything...the 360 wont lose games over it, they'll both enjoy several games, and that is what should really matter to us...

 

I just love the statements like these that show how defeated the 360 has surely become. First 360 owners world wide spamed the interweb when it came out proclaiming it was better then the PS3 in every way. Yet now that the general populous is becoming more informed this gen you can see that any argument that trys to say the 360 can survive the PS3 onslaught is highly invalid.

1. The PS3 costs too much.

Turns out the PS3 is a much better bang for your buck. You dont have to deal with RROD, Great game selection, Built in DVD/BD player, built in WIFI, built in USB ports, SD reader, rechargable controllers, free usb cord, etc.

2.The PS3 breaks down.

This one in particular is a lie I have seen employees from GStop use only to spread there propaganda. THe PS3 does break down.......sometimes. Yet it is still no where near the failure rate of the 360, being somewhere around 30-35%. RROD and disc drive failure, Disc scratching galore.

3.The PS3 has no games.

The PS3 has the SAME amount of games that the 360 had in the same time frame. Only thing is the 360 has a lot of games that came out multiplat with the PS2 like the sports games. If you have a BC PS3 you can still play them. PS3 also is a shoe in for MULTIPLE AAA titles this year(Little Big Planet, Resistence 2), with two of the already Perfect games being available on PS3(GTA4, MGS4).

4. The PS3 won't last long.

Ten year life plan. If you think Sony cant/wont do it just look at the life cycle of there other systems. Doubters are just being stubborn.

5. BluRay is useless.

BluRay won over the cheaper format, HD Discs. It is now taking the DVD market in small strides. increasing 300% on a yearly basis. Blu Ray has also showen it can help with games such as packing as much content as possible in a singular disc, MGS4 anyone?

6.Cell chips are not needed.

Then why have pretty much any developer making a Multiplat game right now have swithed to using IT as it's lead platform. Yes, the cell is a tad harder to program for then the 360, but it has shown to produce better results for both systems. No developer in there right mind will tell you the 360 can out perform the PS3, if they do they are delusional.

7. 360 Outsold PS3.

No......it did not. It has a larger install base, this is all. The 360 was doomed from the start, with the PS3 out pacing it in every turn. PS3 has outsold 360 every month consistently since late last year.

8. Well we have Live.

Yea, that you have to PAY for every year. PSN is just about equal to Live at this current point in time, what is going to happen when HOME comes out and takes the community junky gamers by storm?

9. Well we're still winning omg we're still winning look our weekly sales are ahead of the PS3s on Vgchartz!!!!

Now the only defense for the system is "Yea, it might happen, but when it does it wont matter cuz 720 will be on it's way." Yea, but can the 720 stand up against a system that need not upgrade as it is already got the tech of the future and has a larger install base by default. If the 720 comes out before the PS3's ten year life cycle is up then rest assure we will never see another console war like this again, and sony will stay dominant in Hardcore gamer's households forevermore.

Fixed.

 



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