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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 August 2008
Jordahn said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Arkk said:
Putting it out directly on PC with no other versions would have been economical suicide for the game IMO. Good thing he didn't go that way lol. And I am glad that MGS4 is a PS3 game. One disc is always a good thing.

Wait, didn't the best PS1 RPGs have 3-4 discs? What's so hard about changing discs? I'll never understand this argument. o_o

 

Better to change 3 to 4 CD instead of 1000 cartridges.  Better to have one Blu-ray over 3 to 4 DVD's.  Obviously the latter isn't as bad as the former, but the principle still stands that if you have a better choice, take it.  And that's the big picture.

 

 

You're argue the same point Kojima was saying didn't matter.



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FinalEvangelion on 26 August 2008

I applaud him Both consoles should have it's exclusives. There isn't a law saying that he has to put the game on the 360. Some Xbox fans just wanted Sony to lose a big exclusive, while others fell into the mainstream hype so hard with Halo and Gears that they didn't do their research on a game they may have rather played.

In some ways, I am glad the FF XIII is multi. We won't hear people saying they hate it because it's not on their platform of choice. Some will dislike it because they don't like the game, but that's an honest opinion.



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Jordahn on 26 August 2008
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jordahn said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Arkk said:
Putting it out directly on PC with no other versions would have been economical suicide for the game IMO. Good thing he didn't go that way lol. And I am glad that MGS4 is a PS3 game. One disc is always a good thing.

Wait, didn't the best PS1 RPGs have 3-4 discs? What's so hard about changing discs? I'll never understand this argument. o_o

 

Better to change 3 to 4 CD instead of 1000 cartridges.  Better to have one Blu-ray over 3 to 4 DVD's.  Obviously the latter isn't as bad as the former, but the principle still stands that if you have a better choice, take it.  And that's the big picture.

 

 

You're argue the same point Kojima was saying didn't matter.

 

My statement has nothing to do with Kojima.  My legit point has everything to do with contextual perception of SHMUPGurus' statement.



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Kasz216 on 26 August 2008
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ssj12 said:
Parokki said:
Since when have developers made decisions like this?

Not saying wether or not MGS4 is getting ported, but it's not like Kojima has any say in it. If Konami went behind his back and got another team to do the port, then it wouldn't be the first time it happens in the industry.

 

when it comes to Kojima's games Konami listens to Kojima.

 

Exactly, otherwise MGS4 would've been multiplat.

That or the likely many benfits sony bestowed opon them to keep it that way.

 



makingmusic476 on 26 August 2008
Parokki said:
Since when have developers made decisions like this?

Not saying wether or not MGS4 is getting ported, but it's not like Kojima has any say in it. If Konami went behind his back and got another team to do the port, then it wouldn't be the first time it happens in the industry.

 

Kojima was VP of Konami before he formed his own studio, Kojima Productions.  He is still on the board of directors, and is one of the most powerful men at the company.



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CAL4M1TY on 26 August 2008
shanbcn said:
Kojima we salute you. And to xbots, forgot about it because MGS4 will always remain PS3 exclusive.

 

You salute him for being paid up by Sony? Bravo Kojima, you stand by your beliefs of not being sued for breaking exclusivity deal you made with sony, bravo!

I shouldn't say that, I gave the man kudos for sticking with design choices in game, but it would be highly unlikely that benefits from sony were not a factor in MGS4 remaining exclusive.



SHMUPGurus on 26 August 2008
Jordahn said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jordahn said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Arkk said:
Putting it out directly on PC with no other versions would have been economical suicide for the game IMO. Good thing he didn't go that way lol. And I am glad that MGS4 is a PS3 game. One disc is always a good thing.

Wait, didn't the best PS1 RPGs have 3-4 discs? What's so hard about changing discs? I'll never understand this argument. o_o

 

Better to change 3 to 4 CD instead of 1000 cartridges.  Better to have one Blu-ray over 3 to 4 DVD's.  Obviously the latter isn't as bad as the former, but the principle still stands that if you have a better choice, take it.  And that's the big picture.

 

 

You're argue the same point Kojima was saying didn't matter.

 

My statement has nothing to do with Kojima.  My legit point has everything to do with contextual perception of SHMUPGurus' statement.

Your principle doesn't stand, as I was talking about the generation of console in which the PS1 was (5th generation). So, you're saying there were some N64 games with more than 1 cartridges?

All I'll say is this: I hope a developer isn't going to reconsider releasing a game on PC/Xbox 360/Wii because Blu-ray is a more ''obvious'' choice compared to DVDs that are, as far as I know, still the most successful video and data storage media in the world.



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Jordahn on 26 August 2008
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ssj12 said:
Parokki said:
Since when have developers made decisions like this?

Not saying wether or not MGS4 is getting ported, but it's not like Kojima has any say in it. If Konami went behind his back and got another team to do the port, then it wouldn't be the first time it happens in the industry.

 

when it comes to Kojima's games Konami listens to Kojima.

 

 Exactly, otherwise MGS4 would've been multiplat.

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Jordahn on 26 August 2008
SHMUPGurus said:
Jordahn said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jordahn said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Arkk said:
Putting it out directly on PC with no other versions would have been economical suicide for the game IMO. Good thing he didn't go that way lol. And I am glad that MGS4 is a PS3 game. One disc is always a good thing.

Wait, didn't the best PS1 RPGs have 3-4 discs? What's so hard about changing discs? I'll never understand this argument. o_o

 

Better to change 3 to 4 CD instead of 1000 cartridges.  Better to have one Blu-ray over 3 to 4 DVD's.  Obviously the latter isn't as bad as the former, but the principle still stands that if you have a better choice, take it.  And that's the big picture.

 

 

You're argue the same point Kojima was saying didn't matter.

 

My statement has nothing to do with Kojima.  My legit point has everything to do with contextual perception of SHMUPGurus' statement.

Your principle doesn't stand, as I was talking about the generation of console in which the PS1 was (5th generation). So, you're saying there were some N64 games with more than 1 cartridges?

All I'll say is this: I hope a developer isn't going to reconsider releasing a game on PC/Xbox 360/Wii because Blu-ray is a more ''obvious'' choice compared to DVDs that are, as far as I know, still the most successful video and data storage media in the world.

 

My prinicple still stands as I will explain.  I too was referring to the 32/64 bit era in which SONY and Squaresoft released an add for FFVII in which they stated that FFVII would have theorethically been on over a 1,000 cartridges if it weren't released on a disc based system such as the PSOne.  And I am not saying that Blu-ray is an "obvious" choice because it isn't.  My point was that I agree with Arkk's point that one disc is always a good thing in context that we have that choice as opposed to several discs instead.  And I'm not saying that several discs is bad.  Just making a general agreement that if something is "better," then take advantage of it if it serves your purpose.



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SHMUPGurus on 26 August 2008
Jordahn said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Jordahn said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Jordahn said:
SHMUPGurus said:
Arkk said:
Putting it out directly on PC with no other versions would have been economical suicide for the game IMO. Good thing he didn't go that way lol. And I am glad that MGS4 is a PS3 game. One disc is always a good thing.

Wait, didn't the best PS1 RPGs have 3-4 discs? What's so hard about changing discs? I'll never understand this argument. o_o

 

Better to change 3 to 4 CD instead of 1000 cartridges.  Better to have one Blu-ray over 3 to 4 DVD's.  Obviously the latter isn't as bad as the former, but the principle still stands that if you have a better choice, take it.  And that's the big picture.

 

 

You're argue the same point Kojima was saying didn't matter.

 

My statement has nothing to do with Kojima.  My legit point has everything to do with contextual perception of SHMUPGurus' statement.

Your principle doesn't stand, as I was talking about the generation of console in which the PS1 was (5th generation). So, you're saying there were some N64 games with more than 1 cartridges?

All I'll say is this: I hope a developer isn't going to reconsider releasing a game on PC/Xbox 360/Wii because Blu-ray is a more ''obvious'' choice compared to DVDs that are, as far as I know, still the most successful video and data storage media in the world.

 

My prinicple still stands as I will explain.  I too was referring to the 32/64 bit era in which SONY and Squaresoft released an add for FFVII in which they stated that FFVII would have theorethically been on over a 1,000 cartridges if it weren't released on a disc based system such as the PSOne.  And I am not saying that Blu-ray is an "obvious" choice because it isn't.  My point was that I agree with Arkk's point that one disc is always a good thing in context that we have that choice as opposed to several discs instead.  And I'm not saying that several discs is bad.  Just making a general agreement that if something is "better," then take advantage of it if it serves your purpose.

So, basically, you're thinking that MGS4 on the 360 would look like this:

Squaresoft simply choose the PlayStation 1 at the time because of the FMVs. It wasn't a bad move, since pretty much all the other high profile RPG developers (and many others) copied the concept for their future games, but MGS4... It didn't need that much space to incorporate anything new. Sure, the game has a lot of cutscenes, but if that's the only thing it needs Blu-ray for, then what the heck? =/



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